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Some information on Roblox not launching after October 25th #828

Closed pizzaboxer closed 11 months ago

pizzaboxer commented 11 months ago

I woke up today to receive a massive influx of reports about Roblox not launching after yesterday anymore. It was bad enough that someone took it upon themselves to try and get my attention through Twitter at 1AM in the morning (please do not do that like ever).

Roblox pushed an update yesterday (on October 25th), and it's evident that this update has made Hyperion's cheat detection even stricter. This does not have anything to do with Bloxstrap. People who do not use it are having this exact same problem too. Four people on the Devforum have reported similar issues following the update, and that alone is just people who can post on the DevForum. It is a problem with Roblox.

The best I can do to help you is point you to this Wiki page, which I'd at least hope you've already read.

I will highlight these two specific points though:

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wassagbruh commented 11 months ago

For Some Reason, Advanced Threat Defense is The Cause Of The Roblox Not Loading Issue For Me.

Drag0nK commented 11 months ago

is there an estimated time that this will be fixed?

sepruko commented 11 months ago

is there an estimated time that this will be fixed?

Ask Roblox?

Drag0nK commented 11 months ago

is there an estimated time that this will be fixed?

Ask Roblox?

roblox is not affiliated with blox strap so they wont care

sepruko commented 11 months ago

is there an estimated time that this will be fixed?

Ask Roblox?

roblox is not affiliated with blox strap so they wont care

The crashing has nothing to do with Bloxstrap, did you even read the issue?

ShauryaKesarwani commented 11 months ago

Ok it aparently was correct, it was bitdefender Advanced Threat Defense,

which .exe file should i add as exception here for so i can continue to use Bitdefender Threat detection without making it not load roblox?

Vezlortix commented 11 months ago

Ok it aparently was correct, it was bitdefender Advanced Threat Defense,

which .exe file should i add as exception here for so i can continue to use Bitdefender Threat detection without making it not load roblox?

I just opened my pc and i cant join a single game , i although use 2 antiviruses that came with my gaming laptop which are McAfee Including norton despite when i try joining a game , the screen goes white and crashes

PNDMARK commented 11 months ago

i still dont know how to fix it please help

CodingWithAnxiety commented 11 months ago

There is currently not a fix. Please play another game for the shortened future.

Vezlortix commented 11 months ago

Dang man

roblox-model commented 11 months ago

this issue is actually annoying because i genuinely stopped every 3rd party services which were running in the background AND apps like discord and everything else besides my browser and i still cant play

IxGamerXL commented 11 months ago

Pretty typical moderation for Roblox. Either the moderation just doesn't work, or it works in ways that get non-incriminating players clapped in the process.

jeswastaken commented 11 months ago

i think i found what was bugging it for me, microsoft powertoys peek tool if it's not that, just close out anything that "injects" into apps in task manager, primarily background apps

roblox-model commented 11 months ago

on my end i can't seem to fix it

70T commented 11 months ago

Vulkan crashes for me after this update.

Drag0nK commented 11 months ago

im not using any antivirus software but i cant join

WaviestBalloon commented 11 months ago

Currently issues with version-faaebc838e2e45f6 and version-7cc666219b484414, reverting to version-57e2dd886e0e42a5 used to fix it but RCCS is now refusing clients older than newest.

WaviestBalloon commented 11 months ago

Vulkan crashes for me after this update.

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/roblox-games-load-for-about-3-seconds-then-instantly-crash/2309871/729?u=waviestballoon

Best to avoid Vulkan right now, Bitdancer has confirmed it trips Hyperion, revert to DirectX (preferably) or OpenGL. If you change the render API to OpenGL, expect shader issues in-game.

user1126s commented 11 months ago

Some more information ( this implies to Linux people using custom bootstrapers as well ) Source: from vinegarhq discord server, the team behind vinegar, a Linux bootstraper for roblox. Screenshot_20231027-060510~2 Screenshot_20231027-060608

user1126s commented 11 months ago

👆👆 For people who have started to post bugs that roblox crashes after 1-2 minutes

user1126s commented 11 months ago

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/roblox-games-load-for-about-3-seconds-then-instantly-crash/2309871/ link if you want to open it. (The bug reporter has same pc and specs as me)

user1126s commented 11 months ago

You can't switch channels or versions, I always stay on zcanary though it lead me to several crashes, switch to live

WaviestBalloon commented 11 months ago

zavatarteam2 fixes crashing, it's a rather new deployment as well, try that.

70T commented 11 months ago

Vulkan crashes for me after this update.

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/roblox-games-load-for-about-3-seconds-then-instantly-crash/2309871/729?u=waviestballoon

Best to avoid Vulkan right now, Bitdancer has confirmed it trips Hyperion, revert to DirectX (preferably) or OpenGL. If you change the render API to OpenGL, expect shader issues in-game.

Yeah, but then I can't Game Capture with OBS. Such a well-developed game. Will have to run DX11 windowed mode for now I guess

Not to mention the garbage performance. I could run the game at a pretty much stable 144fps with the occasional dip to 120 or 100 fps during loading etc, and now my average fps is halved at about 70 with terrible frametimes and dips.

WaviestBalloon commented 11 months ago

Vulkan crashes for me after this update.

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/roblox-games-load-for-about-3-seconds-then-instantly-crash/2309871/729?u=waviestballoon Best to avoid Vulkan right now, Bitdancer has confirmed it trips Hyperion, revert to DirectX (preferably) or OpenGL. If you change the render API to OpenGL, expect shader issues in-game.

Yeah, but then I can't Game Capture with OBS. Such a well-developed game. Will have to run DX11 windowed mode for now I guess

Try switching to the zavatarteam2 channel first.

WaviestBalloon commented 11 months ago

Quick recap:

Some possible fixes/solutions:

Ilovecodingasitsfun commented 11 months ago

Ok it aparently was correct, it was bitdefender Advanced Threat Defense, which .exe file should i add as exception here for so i can continue to use Bitdefender Threat detection without making it not load roblox?

I just opened my pc and i cant join a single game , i although use 2 antiviruses that came with my gaming laptop which are McAfee Including norton despite when i try joining a game , the screen goes white and crashes

Thats an issue with OpenGL, when I set the rendering to OpenGL it shows white screen then crashes.

WaviestBalloon commented 11 months ago

@Ilovecodingasitsfun that's expected with OpenGL, Roblox is no longer providing support for it which results in incompatibility and broken shaders, is it possible for you to switch to DirectX?

Ilovecodingasitsfun commented 11 months ago

@Ilovecodingasitsfun that's expected with OpenGL, Roblox is no longer providing support for it which results in incompatibility and broken shaders, is it possible for you to switch to DirectX?

I've set it to auto and installed it on to my other drive and it has been working fine ever since.

IDDQD1337 commented 11 months ago

Roblox also started to close for me for 1 minute (and after a couple of seconds), but I found a solution to this problem (at least for me) I just launched Bloxstrap (maybe it will work with a regular client) as administrator

70T commented 11 months ago

Vulkan crashes for me after this update.

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/roblox-games-load-for-about-3-seconds-then-instantly-crash/2309871/729?u=waviestballoon Best to avoid Vulkan right now, Bitdancer has confirmed it trips Hyperion, revert to DirectX (preferably) or OpenGL. If you change the render API to OpenGL, expect shader issues in-game.

Yeah, but then I can't Game Capture with OBS. Such a well-developed game. Will have to run DX11 windowed mode for now I guess

Try switching to the zavatarteam2 channel first.

Didn't work for me. Still crashes with Vulkan enabled.

WaviestBalloon commented 11 months ago

Roblox also started to close for me for 1 minute (and after a couple of seconds), but I found a solution to this problem (at least for me) I just launched Bloxstrap (maybe it will work with a regular client) as administrator

You should never run the Roblox client or installer with administrative permissions, that isn't much of a fix and isn't recommended.

n00bslayerxd commented 11 months ago

For the past 2 days I haven't been able to join any game on Roblox's website. Tried using an alt, closing programs, using different renderers, running as administrator, reinstalling Roblox AND Bloxstrap, the crash still happens. I can't even launch the desktop version of Roblox, and when I tried to reinstall Roblox it was stuck on "Starting Roblox..." for about 5 seconds and then just closed itself, but the process was still running. I don't have any crash logs, and I have no idea why this is happening. I'm on Windows and hoping for an update fixing this soon.

IxGamerXL commented 11 months ago

Vulkan crashes for me after this update.

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/roblox-games-load-for-about-3-seconds-then-instantly-crash/2309871/729?u=waviestballoon

Best to avoid Vulkan right now, Bitdancer has confirmed it trips Hyperion, revert to DirectX (preferably) or OpenGL. If you change the render API to OpenGL, expect shader issues in-game.

Ever since Roblox got a localization-related update, Vulkan ceased to operate at all. I know this because I had my graphics set to Vulkan on the Studio for the sake of performance, and the MOMENT my studio updated; my Studio failed to start up multiple times. This was thankfully avoided on my part after setting the graphics setting back to the default.

Whatever that specific update did, it caused Vulkan to suddenly fail and crash upon use, which almost locked me out of my Studio.

WaviestBalloon commented 11 months ago

For the past 2 days I haven't been able to join any game on Roblox's website. Tried using an alt, closing programs, using different renderers, running as administrator, reinstalling Roblox AND Bloxstrap, the crash still happens. I can't even launch the desktop version of Roblox, and when I tried to reinstall Roblox it was stuck on "Starting Roblox..." for about 5 seconds and then just closed itself, but the process was still running. I don't have any crash logs, and I have no idea why this is happening. I'm on Windows and hoping for an update fixing this soon.

Hey can you change your deployment channel to zavatarteam2 and install that? It's currently working for Roblox on Linux users and I need to see if it also works for normal Windows users with Bloxstrap.

painelle commented 11 months ago

using zavatarteam2 doesn't fix it for me Bloxstrap_20231028T000714Z.log logs if it helps

user1126s commented 11 months ago

using zavatarteam2 doesn't fix it for me Bloxstrap_20231028T000714Z.log logs if it helps

Probably because it follows diffrent things to be compatible with wine and grapejuice

user1126s commented 11 months ago

Roblox also started to close for me for 1 minute (and after a couple of seconds), but I found a solution to this problem (at least for me) I just launched Bloxstrap (maybe it will work with a regular client) as administrator

You should never run the Roblox client or installer with administrative permissions, that isn't much of a fix and isn't recommended.

You are right, I don't run them as administrator, I run them as sudo. I have to open the app using terminal with the commands: flatpak run io.github.vinegarhq.Vinegar player --force. I have to do this 3 times to get it to open for 10 minutes. I have tried building from source but no change, I also edited the config to change some flags and channels.

TacheAdrian542 commented 11 months ago

Any idea When This will end, About This Incident?

n00bslayerxd commented 11 months ago

Hey can you change your deployment channel to zavatarteam2 and install that? It's currently working for Roblox on Linux users and I need to see if it also works for normal Windows users with Bloxstrap.

Nope, didn't work. Still waiting for Roblox to do something.

n00bslayerxd commented 11 months ago

Nope, didn't work. Still waiting for Roblox to do something.

I fixed it. Please look for any potential viruses in your device. I had a miner in my pc.

Grizzly1706 commented 11 months ago

Nope, didn't work. Still waiting for Roblox to do something.

I fixed it. Please look for any potential viruses in your device. I had a miner in my pc.

i don't think data miners have anything to do with a widespread problem that even the developers have acknowledged

WaviestBalloon commented 11 months ago

i don't think data miners have anything to do with a widespread problem that even the developers have acknowledged

People on DevForums are having similar problems, even now related to the installer.

Unsure what is happening at the moment but regarding to client crashing, the team at Roblox has acknowledged the issue but the fix might be slow.

user1126s commented 11 months ago

Quick recap:

* The FastFlag to enforce Vulkan rendering can trip Hyperion **(Confirmed by Roblox employee, Bitdancer)**

* Bitdefender has a feature which can trip Hyperion **(Confirmed by Roblox employee, Bitdancer)**

* Issue is not isolated to Roblox on Linux as some people first thought, both Wine users and Windows users are encountering random crashes

Some possible fixes/solutions:

* If you are using Bitdefender for your anti-virus provider, **disable "Advanced Threat Defense" or quit out of the application entirely**

* **Do not enforce Roblox to use anything other than Automatic** for the rendering mode

* **Force the `zavatarteam2` deployment channel,** fixes crashing for Roblox on Linux users, nobody has confirmed if it works with Windows users yet **_(please test this if you can)_**
  (https://devforum.roblox.com/t/roblox-games-load-for-about-3-seconds-then-instantly-crash/2309871/731?u=waviestballoon)

yep it fixed crashes on nobara 37 vinegar and grapejuice no work well

user1126s commented 11 months ago

now*

n00bslayerxd commented 11 months ago

i don't think data miners have anything to do with a widespread problem that even the developers have acknowledged.

Well, it fixed it for me. I myself didn't even know that would be the thing. I didn't even know I had a virus.

Grizzly1706 commented 11 months ago

i don't think data miners have anything to do with a widespread problem that even the developers have acknowledged.

Well, it fixed it for me. I myself didn't even know that would be the thing. I didn't even know I had a virus.

I just did a scan, after doing a fresh install of windows right before the problem became well known and there aren't any viruses on my PC, yet i'm still having issues with both the regular bootstrapper, and bloxstrap.

Drag0nK commented 11 months ago

can you change your channel using bloxstrap

Lucas559-noob commented 11 months ago

Linux bootstraper for roblox

that exists? I thought roblox could not run on linux, neither with wine

user1126s commented 11 months ago

Linux bootstraper for roblox

that exists? I thought roblox could not run on linux, neither with wine

It did not when anticheat released, but 3 months later they made it work again