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@schanzer please let me know your final thoughts on which general form of a sinusoidal function you'd like me to finalize materials with by tomorrow morning. (see info on slack) Thanks!
@flannery-denny just got back to the hotel -- I say use the IM form. ;)
@schanzer confirming this wording from yesterday's commit work for you.
Noting that IM uses maximum and minimum in their trig function glossary
@schanzer I tried to tackle your request re: starter file prose.
@schanzer there are two fuel efficiency starter files owned by teacher success, neither is the OG file and I'm not sure that either of them are actually the file linked in the starter-files.js
file. Please check your files. Thanks
@schanzer noting that it was important to you to avoid maximum and minimum in the lesson plan, but here is what I found (and just translated) for midline in our glossary
the horizontal line that passes exactly in the middle between the graph's maximum and minimum points
@flannery-denny What's the problem? One of them is descriptive, and the other is vocabulary. There's no conflict here.
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Thanks @schanzer. Really helpful to know that the new formatting works for participants. Not sure why I never thought of writing them like that before. Seems so much clearer than repeating the list of names in separate comments... but I wasn't 100% sure it would work for newbies.
@schanzer seeing this comment never got posted. sorry.
Generally speaking, you've added a lot of things to this list that aren't fleshed out enough for me to focus on - perhaps because you are planning to tackle them yourself? It can wait until we meet next week, but if it's a bigger priority than opt-projects, please write clearer specs.
I went back to work on the idea of having students reflect on how the window impacts our interpretation of the data and the dots in pyret appear to have gotten bigger such that these images are terrible?
I wonder if this was related to our previous conversation about how it was hard to click on the data in a different starter file? Is it possible for pyret to adjust dot size based on how many dots it's trying to put on the screen?
@flannery-denny finally done with Bay City and have the space to process. Right now the most helpful items above are:
@schanzer - Feeling Confused - I caught that c and d inconsistency for periodic models before the Alg2 pd and changed them to h and k in the workbook, lesson plan and desmos files. Where did c and d resurface? Were you in a DS training using old versions of things? I took a quick look on master and things look right to me.
Here's the link I shared in our git conversation. IM uses y=Asin(B(x−h))+k as the general form of a sinusoidal function
As for logarithmic models, there seems to be even less standardization and many sites don't try to describe the form with letters standing in for constants at all.
Ours seems to be more complex than what IM uses, so I'm not sure what letter to use for the final coefficient
I'm finding this on wikipedia:
And this is the only model /i've found so far with more terms:
The general form of the common logarithmic function is 𝑓(𝑥)=𝑎log(±𝑥+𝑐)+𝑑 , or if a base 𝐵 logarithm is used instead, the general form would be 𝑓(𝑥)=𝑎log𝐵(±𝑥+𝑐)+𝑑 .
@flannery-denny unfortunately I can't recall where the periodic inconsistency cropped up in Riverside. I suppose it's possible that the DS training used the old version of things, so let's ignore this and see what happens next week.
I'm starting to develop convictions about these coefficients in general: every model has a horizontal and vertical shift, but it looks like math textbooks use these shifts entirely inconsistently! I'm increasingly of the opinion that our modeling approach is forcing standardization across these various formulas, and that's really good for us to do so.
Here's what I'm thinking:
This way k is universally identified as the vertical, h as the horizontal. Students learn to pick them out in every model they see, and they don't get hung up on which letter is which. We can explicitly point out that many models have zero for h or k, and ask them to rewrite the form to see what they look like without those terms.
I could even see a page where we show them variations on the models where the letters are just different (both using standard coefficients from books and using totally-random ones!), asking them to identify what goes with what. This would be both a fantastically-useful page to develop a higher-level, structural understanding AND a nice way to get around complains like "but textbook XYZ uses different letters! 😩"
@schanzer I think I'm generally in agreement, but there is a lot of consistency about the forms linear functions take and I don't see math teachers buying into use of a fourth and different one.
Slope-Intercept Form: This form is written as y = mx + b, where m is the slope of the line and b is the y-intercept. It provides information about the slope and y-intercept of the line. Point-Slope Form: This form is written as y - y1 = m(x - x1), where (x1, y1) is a point on the line and m is the slope. It provides information about a specific point on the line and its slope. Standard Form: This form is written as Ax + By = C, where A, B, and C are constants. It provides information about the coefficients of the variables and the constant term.
We could acknowledge that the forms are conventions, some of which are more agreed upon than others, and state that, for lines, tracking horizontal shift is redundant so this form isn't really used.
I always felt comfortable telling my students that "if I were in charge" m and b would not be the convention used, but I wasn't around when the convention was formalized, so I want them to know what they'll be confronted with. And it definitely won't be h and k for linear functions.
@flannery-denny ok, so it sounds like we're in agreement about everything except linear models. Can you start a separate branch to do this switch, since I'm teaching this coming week?
As for linear models -- I would argue that f(x) = m(x - h) + b isn't really new. It's just an acknowledgement that horizontal shifts are real.
@flannery-denny I've moved the non-critical items out of this issue and into #1345 , which we can revisit when planning for Fall2025. Most of what's left here is covered by your coefficient
branch, which I'm hoping we can merge tomorrow.
@schanzer Looking to close this issue, but I see 4 remaining items that haven't been checked off.
@flannery-denny agree re: linear and required. I've updated the item and checked it off. Checking for correctness has been added elsewhere, and I've deleted it here.
I'm going to be resolving the rest of the items.
Thanks @schanzer. Noting that if you add new Desmos activities to the existing files anywhere other than the final slide, slide numbers will have to be updated in both the lesson plans and workbook pages for all of the slides that follow.
@flannery-denny moving "check solutions for correctness" to a separate issue and closing this one!
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