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Pioneer Posters #649

Closed schanzer closed 2 years ago

retabak commented 2 years ago

Oooookay! I attempted to throw together a little something. Here it is! ajay.pdf

Please know that I am not a graphic designer and I really did try my best and I recognize that what I've created is not phenomenal.

That said (and much more importantly!), coming up with a template led to me to a lot of questions / insights that I'm excited to dig into with y'all, @flannery-denny and @schanzer . I am hyped to chat about a more specific vision for what this project / poster series entails. (I recognize some of these convos may have happened before I joind the team, in which case, let's get me up to speed... And brainstorm some more!)

Here are a few things I learned / contemplated while creating my crappy little poster:

flannery-denny commented 2 years ago
  1. I feel strongly that we need at least the amount of text that you've included on the mockup you sent. Happy to talk about why if you want.
  2. I expect us to hype this poster series periodically and feature posters from them during all of the various months... but I don't think committing to weekly blogposts is in any way realistic for our team right now.
  3. I was imagining color posters. Other posters sets I know of for teachers to print themselves offer both versions.
flannery-denny commented 2 years ago
  1. I feel strongly that we need at least the amount of text that you've included on the mockup you sent. Happy to talk about why if you want.
  2. I expect us to hype this poster series periodically and feature posters from them during all of the various months... but I don't think committing to weekly blogposts is in any way realistic for our team right now.
  3. I was imagining color posters. Other posters sets I know of for teachers to print themselves offer both versions.
schanzer commented 2 years ago

@schanzer will identify an automated filter tool to process these images

retabak commented 2 years ago

@retabak

retabak commented 2 years ago

fyi @schanzer !

My assessment of Rena's spreadsheet is that the text is not quite ready to put directly onto posters. @flannery-denny agrees. When we chatted, we discussed how the text describing the pioneers needs to be revised, namely:

And so: I'm going to choose about 30 pioneers (that could potentially be showcased in Flannery's recent lesson) and work on polishing / revising their little biographies to meet our needs a little bit better.

Hoping this sounds good to you!

schanzer commented 2 years ago

@retabak this sounds perfect. Exactly what I would have hoped for, and then some!

flannery-denny commented 2 years ago

just had a thought about posters. was imagining how I'd have to frame them with construction paper in order to have them not blend into the wall. Made me wonder if the color version could literally have a border framing the edges... and the author could decide which frame to use for that person... rainbow flag frame for queer folks, etc. maybe too much? just a thought. and perhaps we're only working on the b&w images for now.

schanzer commented 2 years ago

I think borders are essential in any context -- most printers don't offer total edge-to-edge printing. Let's assume at least a 1/2" margin all around?

retabak commented 2 years ago

@flannery-denny Here is the spreadsheet with the Pioneer blurbs!

Feel free to directly edit but if you're unclear on a decision I made or want me to explain something, add a comment.

As you read, please you think about: does this collection of folks seem balanced (i.e. good representation of race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc)?

Side note: I learned a little bit about Lee Lorch while reading about Evelyn Granville. (He pressured the American Mathematical Society to host their conference at a venue that would allow participants of color to attend, after Granville was excluded.) I then started wondering if it would be useful to have some posters about pioneering allies (who are likely white, heterosexual).... or maybe that is just centering whiteness and we don't wanna go there.

flannery-denny commented 2 years ago

@retabak I don't think we would make a poster about Lee Lorch because he's an ally. But Pioneers are not inherently POC, so if Lee Lorch would be described as a pioneer in his own right for his contributions to mathematics, his story could certainly include his work as an ally.

flannery-denny commented 2 years ago

We have 30 texts written. I am pushing them all to git so that we have a record of them.

I am going to delete the following pages from git for now.

We're waiting on reasonable pictures for these

These should maybe fall by the wayside... both are missing images and

Shriram also suggested cutting:

schanzer commented 2 years ago

@flannery-denny no need to delete pages from git, if we plan on using them eventually!

flannery-denny commented 2 years ago

ok. in that case, use this as a record of what we shouldn't include in the pdf / on the landing page.

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flannery-denny commented 2 years ago

@schanzer Sorry to report that I am still unable to build the full pdf. Zero progress after several minutes (and the link to it from the materials section of the lesson plan straight up doesn't work). I'm sure that my computer & internet connection aren't as zippy as Dorai's, but I'm also sure that my setup is faster than many and I don't usually struggle with loading anything else on our website... so the current solution doesn't work. I've commented out two more posters whose images don't look good. And will dig back in to following up with folks to locate more good pictures so that we can get the poster numbers back up.

In my ideal world, next steps would be:

  1. Make a full pdf by hand that we can link now from the secret version of the lesson we share out for feedback. Make sure it includes the pioneers-cover.adoc as the first page and only the people who are currently appearing on the pioneers landing page.
  2. Give a careful read to the wording of the worksheets listed in the materials section and change wording as you see fit.
  3. Send me a secret url that I can share for feedback from former colleagues.

Also, now that you've done some more work with the images (including scaling some of them down to fit the posters), can you please give me a smaller number than 2000 x 2000 pixels that is what we actually need. That constraint led Maddog to send us images that we couldn't use (too dark/holding a microphone) so it would be really helpful to know a real minimum size before I write him back with another request.

Thanks!

schanzer commented 2 years ago

What url are you using?