schanzer
commented
2 years ago @flannery-denny left a bunch of comments. I think the 5m time estimates are generally tight. I'd wager they generally average out to 8m for most kids.
Closed flannery-denny closed 2 years ago
schanzer
commented
2 years ago @flannery-denny left a bunch of comments. I think the 5m time estimates are generally tight. I'd wager they generally average out to 8m for most kids.
retabak
commented
2 years ago I looked through part 4 and added comments, will continue with part 5 through the end tomorrow! I agree that 5m per section is tight. For sixth graders, I'd do 10 min per section - but I don't think that's our target audience. I like Emmanuel's guess of 8m per section.
On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 3:42 PM Emmanuel Schanzer @.***> wrote:
@flannery-denny https://github.com/flannery-denny left a bunch of comments. I think the 5m time estimates are generally tight. I'd wager they generally average out to 8m for most kids.
— You are receiving this because you were assigned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub https://github.com/bootstrapworld/curriculum/issues/684#issuecomment-986089839, or unsubscribe https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AUY3SE7ASHVZ4R4PAAOFHB3UPJ4L5ANCNFSM5JL3QFQQ . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675 or Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub.
retabak
commented
2 years ago Overall, I like this and think it is a great soft intro to data science with pyret.
There were moments where it felt like kids might get bored - there's a lot of repetition (open this file, load this chart, answer these questions). I recognize high school students could likely zip through this, but as a sixth grade teacher (not the target audience, I know) I'd appreciate fewer sections (nine is a lot!), and perhaps a few more questions within each section to prompt deeper analysis. Overall, it feels (at some times more than others) a little predictable. Is this intended for students to just work through independently? If that's the case, I suppose keeping it long makes sense. A teacher like me could just shorten it to meet my needs. (That said, some sections were really fun and interesting! The road crossings / scatterplots were intriguing.) @retabak Can't combine sections and make them longer without ending up with overwhelming starter files. Folks engaging we this lesson will likely have done zero other bootstrap lessons or coding. I'd love to know which sections you think are most boring. Open to cutting them! I made files to see what might be interesting from a data perspective, from a coding perspective, and from a math learning goal perspective. I've already cut lots of Nick's ideas and several of my own. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be more ruthless.
OOOOOH I HAVE AN IDEA. If we made a Desmos version and "advertised" it in the Desmos facebook group (I'd happily write a blurb and post), I bet tons of folks would grab it. As is, it seems like potentially a good activity for a day when there's a sub (which is the sort of thing people often need, especially at the end of the semester). I'd be happy to Desmos-ify it when it's finalized (which would literally be a matter of copying / pasting). I think you'd honestly get a lot of takers from that crowd of nerdy teachers. Let me know if this is of interest, @flannery-denny @schanzer
Re: Nick's plot - it's fun! But the lesson is quite long. I say no.
flannery-denny
commented
2 years ago @schanzer @retabak I've incorporated all of your googledoc feedback here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y51duGtA2N_yeuN6VEWoG8IRWzRagFGAnFxCUGVbb2A/edit?usp=sharing and left Rachel a response in her above comment. Thanks!
Before it gets published:
flannery-denny
commented
2 years ago @retabak. I talked to @schanzer. We're on board with you desmosifying, assuming each page will link to its pyret file and questions will happen on that page.
Not sure what the teacher interface looks like. Is it easy to offer up solutions, etc. on the kind of Desmos activity you're envisioning or should I work on an asciidoc of a teacher resource page?
Ultimately we're going to share the link on this page.
Lesson plan is here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y51duGtA2N_yeuN6VEWoG8IRWzRagFGAnFxCUGVbb2A/edit?usp=sharing
Please adjust timing on the sections to reflect your experience of them.
If you want to adjust pyret starter files they are here. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CtfzxOUySppcAEmnzijEXJd-Q_HgjKBs?usp=sharing
I am inclined to think that there is already a lot going on in this lesson, but Click this link to see an idea Nick had about a custom image scatter plot. If either of you is really excited about the first plot adding something to this lesson, I’ll work on cleaning it up.