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brave / ledger-publisher

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candidates for publisher exclusion #19

Closed mrose17 closed 7 years ago

mrose17 commented 7 years ago

brave.com, you guys flattr.net, micropayment service fastmail.com, email and calendar service provider ixquick.com, search engine powered by Google dogpile.com, metasearch engine kvasir.no, search engine powered by Google hvaerminip.no, IP address discovery service ipv6-test.com, network testing utility test-ipv6.com, network testing utility searx.me, meta search engine steampowered.com, game distributor yr.no, weather forecast storytel.no, audiobook marketplace audible.com, audiobook marketplace icloud.com, personal information services provider simplenote.com, note taking service openhub.net, open-source contributions tracker

cc: @Aeyoun

mrose17 commented 7 years ago

@Aeyoun - we don't have a full set of rules yet as to what should constitute a publisher.

one suggestion was to see if we blocked any ads on the site, and if so, then that would make it a publisher. the issue with that is that some sites would benefit from contributions, but don't do ads today.

for my own browser settings, the rule i use is "if i send them money, they don't get contributions, otherwise, fine."

what's your thinking?

thanks,

/mtr cc: @aekeus

da2x commented 7 years ago

I’ve removed hundreds of websites from my ledger over the course of a month. It’s too much work to maintain the ledger at the moment. Can I send you my current ledger with statuses? Or does Brave collect the websites I toggle off and remove the ones that thousands of users have toggled off? … To let users vote on it but let individual users override it locally.

I had some 600 entries on my ledger and toggled off 400 of them. God damned reCAPTCHA was at the top of my list last month.

mrose17 commented 7 years ago

sorry for the delay in replying, for some reason, your comment didn't result in a ping to me.

first things first: your browsing history and publisher synopsis is kept on your browser and never sent to any servers.

over the last few months, there have been several internal discussions as to how publishers should be identified. the present strategy is to use a curated ruleset that excludes the most common non-publisher sites.

one suggestion was to change the default case from "it's a publisher" to "if the browser blocked at least one add from the page, then it's a puboisher".

comments?

ps: what i don't understand in your report is that things like captcha's are embedded in a webpage, and those are never evaluated for publisher status. so i'm wondering how that shows up at all.

thanks,

/mtr

da2x commented 7 years ago

one suggestion was to change the default case from "it's a publisher" to "if the browser blocked at least one add from the page, then it's a puboisher".

Hm. I kind of like funding websites that don’t rely on ads. Open source projects will probably appreciate a payment from Brave customers even though they don’t all put up ads on their websites. It sure is a complicated problem you guys have created for yourself. Making all or even the majority of users will be very tricky indeed.

The list of websites I’ve excluded is very varied. I’ve excluded stores, commercial service providers, some web tools but not all, websites that I pay for in other ways, websites that don’t provide any "infotainment" or news content, and a whole bunch of other websites.

Maybe fix it by making it easier to disable sites? Why isn’t a ledger toggle included in the Bravery-menu, for example? Or add a money faucet icon somewhere more prominently in the UI where users can disable websites they don’t want to fund.

mrose17 commented 7 years ago

list above fixed by https://github.com/brave/ledger-publisher/pull/20