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Optional Security is Not An Option
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Look closer at forcing functions #2

Open martinthomson opened 6 years ago

martinthomson commented 6 years ago

You mention paying people to deploy DNSSEC. You might want to look closer at similar things that drove the "success" of HTTPS.

The success of HTTPS is in no small part to several concurrent forcing functions:

There are a bunch of other factors, not the least being the huge amount of effort invested in removing barriers. Let's Encrypt is probably the most notable here, not so much by smashing the cost-in-dollars, but by providing a common platform for enrollment and certificate acquisition, which addressed the operational costs.

I would also be cautious in declaring victory. HTTPS adoption looks good from the perspective of big sites and browser metrics, but until you can type "example.com" into a browser and have it interpret that as "https://example.com/" and expect that to work - with HSTS - then I don't consider HTTPS to have won.

britram commented 5 years ago

Working on this now; is there, off the top of your head, a good citation for ratcheting each browser ratcheting UX changes on security on the browser side? ironically my google-fu yields only the announcement from Google on Chrome and a bunch of complaining in the SEO-osphere.

martinthomson commented 5 years ago

https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2018/01/15/secure-contexts-everywhere/