Left panel in full view (with the current photo maximised) is hardly discoverable

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jBrout GUI would need some graphical stuff to let the user know that a panel
can be opened when a photo is maximised since keying Inser is hardly
discoverable.

Aldo davitofrg said on issue 58 :
I agree the Insert key is quite non-standard. I don't know about the Linux
world, but nowhere is the Insert key used this way in Windows AFAIK. IMO,
using the F10 key would have been slightly better since F10 is normally
used to reach the main menu and the left pane can be perceived as a kind of
menu. Anyhow, there should be a mouse-only way to switch the left pane off
or on.
Some software use a nice trick: buttons or panes which appear only when the
mouse pointer comes to a specific portion of the screen. For example,
jBrout could display the left pane if the mouse pointer hits the left
border of the window or screen. Once popped on, I suggest the left pane
should have a close button which would allow to close it with the mouse.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by thibaut....@gmail.com on 3 Feb 2009 at 10:33

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davitofrg said : "Some software use a nice trick: buttons or panes which appear 
only
when the mouse pointer comes to a specific portion of the screen"

It seems that GTK+ 3.0 will have that kind of bling bling
http://aruiz.typepad.com/siliconisland/2009/02/sneak-peek-on-h.html

Original comment by thibaut....@gmail.com on 4 Feb 2009 at 6:08

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I don't mind the Insert key. It's written in the documentation (which is fairly 
quick
to read...).

Besides, to avoid bling bling and, as a simple way to make it discoverable, I 
think
when a right click menu is added, it could feature the panel (un)display, and 
remind
the key used to (un)display it. 

Original comment by chartier...@gmail.com on 18 Feb 2009 at 1:45

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I agree the documentation is simple and that once you know the key, the trick 
works.
The problem is that

1 - many (most?) users don't read the documentation. Especially since it is not
included in the software (you know, something about another standard key, F1 
;-) )

2 - standards say some keys should be used for some things. I don't remember 
seeing
the Insert key used in such a way (but my experience and/or my memory may be 
limited)
I know, there is no standard to show/hide a panel, but why choose a key which 
has
such a strong significance? Ok, I can guess: because it is much more accessible 
than
F10 :-)

3 - if some day the Insert key gets used for a more intuitive usage somewhere 
else in
jBrout (for example, using the Insert key as a short cut to add folders or tags 
would
be intuitive IMO), then using Insert in full view will suddenly seem strange. 
But
then users who will want to bring harmony to the interface will disagree with 
those
who will say "Hey, I'm used to Insert in full view, don't change anything".

BTW, this whole matter is very low priority IMO ;-)

Original comment by davito...@gmail.com on 18 Feb 2009 at 3:31

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For 1:
the documentation is available in jbrout, in the help menu ;-)
but it's now odd and old.

For 2/3:
Yes "insert key" was a bad idea ... "Tab key" will be better, like in quake ;-)

Original comment by manat...@gmail.com on 18 Feb 2009 at 3:51

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"I don't mind the Insert key. It's written in the documentation"

wow, it looks like an engineer answer ;-)

Would you like a car if you had to press a button in the glove box to start the
engine (even if it's written in the documentation) ?

I think that any product must be as intuitive as possible and that any 
functionality
must be as discoverable as possible

I think that there must be a way to show graphically the command to display the 
panel.

for instance, usually when an application is running in full screen, hovering a 
side
of the screen (left or top for instance) displays a panel or a toolbar...

Original comment by thibaut....@gmail.com on 18 Feb 2009 at 3:51

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Sorry, manatlan, I thought there was no help included in jBrout. I should try to
check first ;-)

Original comment by davito...@gmail.com on 18 Feb 2009 at 4:05

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i've noticed that Eye of GNOME has a panel with all pictures from the current
directory displayed (it's called Collection d'images in french).
That panel can be diplayed by pressing F9.
Maybe F9 is available within jBrout for diaplaying Left panel in full view ?

Original comment by thibaut....@gmail.com on 28 Feb 2009 at 6:21

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f9 implemented in r195

Original comment by tbenita on 30 Jun 2009 at 12:22

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see preceding post

Original comment by manat...@gmail.com on 30 Jun 2009 at 12:33

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