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BDRC Ontology Schema
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reviewing the changes I made #50

Closed eroux closed 6 years ago

eroux commented 6 years ago

@xristy you can review the changes I made here, after looking at some books, I realized that when in the encoding field I have:

so I can't really map chinese, sanskrit and mongolian to a fully detailed :LangScript (with :language and :script filled), that's why I created the various Unknown variations (bdr:SaUnknown, etc.), with no associated :script. I think these may be the root nodes if we build a LangScript taxonomy... wdyt?

xristy commented 6 years ago

The various additions look good to me. Since "mongolian in old script" is mentioned, is there a "mongolian in new script"? All of the material in the archive that I'm aware of is in Mongolian script of some flavor (not Cyrillic or Latin).

I guess that bdr:SaUnknown would make a plausible root. Would bdr:SaUnspecified work for you? I've tended to think of "Unknown" as not available to be entered, and "Unspecified" as we could know it by looking/reading but we haven't yet done that.

eroux commented 6 years ago

My understanding is that the cyrillic script is the official one since the 1940s, but I have a very small knowledge of this topic; so in my mind "old" refers to "before the 1940s"). Maybe "old script" should be replaced by "mongolian script", it would be more neutral I think...

No problem for Unspecified.

xristy commented 6 years ago

There are 38 Works with Mongol encoding. Two that might be of interest as examples of using the LangScript properties:

W00KG09211 is a mix of Tibetan DBuChen and Old Mongolian.

W00KG03892 is a Mongolian grammar in Cyrillic with Old Mongolian. It's not a very good copy and the images are apparently rather large. It's not clear whether it is a Mongolian grammar in Russian or a grammar of Old Mongolian in Modern Mongolian...

xristy commented 6 years ago

Am I correct that bdr:BoTibt would be a plausible root for the Tibetan portion of a LangScript taxonomy? Is bdr:ScriptTibt essentially saying "generic" Tibetan script?

eroux commented 6 years ago

W00KG03892 is a bit disturbing actually...

yeark... let's not look too close at the data...

For the Tibetan, I'm not sure... I agree it's tempting to have BoTibt as root at it seems the "normal" Tibetan, but at the same time it also seems strange to have BoEwts as a subclass... but not too strange maybe, I don't really have a strong opinion on that!

xristy commented 6 years ago

I was fishing for whether you were thinking of bdr:BoTibt as parallel to bdr:SaUnspecified or whether there should be a bdr:BoUnspecified. I really think that the bdr:BoTibt should be considered parallel to bdr:SaUnspecified and I don't find it strange to have bdr:BoEwts under bdr:BoTibt any more than bdr:SaIast under bdr:SaUnspecified