document use of creator and title types

[eroux]

Some creator and title types are not obvious to distinguish and it would be helpful to understand how they have been used in our data, in order to document the types and explain how to use them (and probably merge some).

The difficult creator types are:

• [x] bdo:creatorAttributedAuthor
• [x] bdo:creatorContributingAuthor
• [x] bdo:creatorGeneralAuthor
• [x] bdo:creatorMainAuthor
• [x] bdo:creatorRecipientOfResponseToQuery

and the title types:

• [x] bdo:WorkBibliographicalTitle
• [x] bdo:WorkCaptionTitle
• [x] bdo:WorkCopyrightPageTitle
• [x] bdo:WorkCoverTitle
• [ ] bdo:FullTitle
• [ ] bdo:HalfTitle
• [x] bdo:OtherTitle
• [x] bdo:RunningTitle
• [x] bdo:TitlePageTitle
• [ ] bdo:TitlePortion

[eroux]

I've checked the boxes for the titles I think I understand, some others are still unclear... is "section title" the title of a section? what's the difference with a bibliographical title in this case?

@karmagongde would you have time to explain a little bit the subtleties in the meanings of each title and creator type listed above?

[karmagongde]

@eroux I am copying the explanation for your questions from the TBRC_Manual_1.0. B. Title Types and Definitions Bibliographic Title: Title by which a Work is identified for cataloging purposes. There are three usages: (1) Title that is the main title of a Work based on Cover Title, Title Page Title. Spine Title, Colophon Title; (2) Title that is a known or popular abbreviation of the main title of a Work; (3) Title that is a collective convention used to collocate publications of an author that contains several Works (ex: gsung ‘bum) Title Page Title: (1) Title that appears on the title page of a Work; (2) Title of an Individual Work or text in the node of an Outline (not necessarily on title page) Subtitle: Title that is explanatory following the main bibliographic title Running Title: Title or abbreviated title that is repeated at the head, foot or in the margins of a page or folio Dkar chag Title: Title as it appears in a dkar chag of a Work Colophon Title: Title given at the end of a Work or text that provides information pertaining to the title, author(s) name, author(s) age or time of composition, place of composition, publisher or printer, date of publication or printing or other important information Cover Title: Title printed on the cover of a Work or text as issued Section Title: Title in a section in an outline node denoting a grouping of texts Half Title: Title of a publication appearing on a page or folio preceding the title page Other Title: Title that occurs in addition to the Bibliographical Title; title in a language other than the Bibliographical Title; variation of the Bibliographical Title Caption Title: (1) Title given at the beginning of the first page of a text; (2) Title of an image Spine Title: Title appearing on the spine of a Work Incipit: Title based on the opening lines of a Work or text Portion: Title that is abbreviated, condensed, divided from the main title

[eroux]

Excellent thanks a lot! I was not aware of the existence of this document, can you please send it to us via email?

[karmagongde]

@eroux I shared the google doc link with you.

[xristy]

@karmagongde maybe post the link here. I don't have it.

[karmagongde]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J7D_sHx8xRpOsfs8Nx9en4EKteyTW1SRvPHVPjGQywk/edit

[eroux]

@karmagongde I don't really understand the way section title is used in the data... for instance if we take W1KG4197 or W1KG10436, I don't really understand why section title is used... can you explain?

[karmagongde]

@eroux In these two work numbers selected section title are part of the text. In the book, there are several texts and to know the first text, I added section title. In general, we don't need this in work number. When create outline, this title will be in the outline. That section title in this two work number are extra. Since, this two work number has Bibliographical title and title page title we can remove it.

[eroux]

I was asked by Lauran what was the difference between our half titles and title portions and I couldn't say. I've been trying to look at the database for some uses of Half title, I've found that the property is used very sparsely (42 times), and each time I really cannot see why it's used instead of another more common one...

For PortionTitle (used 23 times in total), I also cannot find it used in a way that I can understand. In some cases (like W1KG4769) it's used for section titles, in some others it holds the Sanskrit title of an outline node...

I propose we remove these two title types from the ontology and replace the occurrences with either OtherTitle or Bibliographic Title...

Full title is more widely used (937 times), but I also cannot find what the pattern of use is neither... W1KG12215 seems interesting as the Full title and Bibliographical Title are completely different, but the manuscript is in Ume script and I cannot read it. @karmagongde how would you describe your use of Full title? Is it a useful thing to keep in the new system?

[xristy]

I think replacing :WorkTitlePortion by :WorkOtherTitle makes sense.

The :WorkHalfTitlecould be retained since it is a common element of western and perhaps modern Asian publishing. However, I wonder how many of the 42 uses in the current dataset are actually half-titles.

Checking W21818 there is a bibliographic title, a half title and a cover title. What is shown as the half title appears to actually be the title page title from the pecha which has been wrapped in some paratext showing either an outer title page title or a cover title - from the scans it looks like the western style title page title. I don't see a scan of the cover itself (which for these old western style books was usual a solid color with minimal to no printing except on the spine) - and publication data, preface and contents.

This case presents both a title page title for a re-presentation of an original manuscript with its own title page.

On the other hand W1KG15039 really has a conventional half title as shown in the current data. On the other hand I don't see how the bibliographic title is derived.

[eroux]

Ok for that yes, that will make the situation much clearer. What do you think about :WorkFullTitle?

[xristy]

Well we do need guidance from @karmagongde on this. full title isn't covered in the TBRC Standard and it is not a well known type of title. It's been used relatively often so there must be some notion among the librarians of when to use.

The example of W1KG12215 seems quite mysterious. It's correct to not use title page title since there isn't a formal title page.

[karmagongde]

Hi Chris and Elie, The fullTitle is mainly used for Tibetan Pecha. In 2010, Paldor had requested to add this title because modern books have TitlePageTitle.

The work number W1KG12215 do not have Title on the cover page as well as at colophon. But the contents of this text is some to W1KG18323, stag gzig nor rdzong. So, I will modify the title of W1KG12215.

Some books, when all the titles are in English, we translate the title to Tibetan readers to understand and created bibliographic titles such as W1KG15039 and W19802.

[eroux]

Thanks for the explanation @karmagongde that's really helpful! For Tibetan pechas, do you know what was recorded in the Full Title field? Was it the title on the hard cover? Or what was on the title page?

[xristy]

@karmagongde thank you for the comments. If I understand correctly, the fullTitle is used when there is no formal titlePageTitle. The TBRC Standard doc should be updated to indicate the fullTitle purpose and how it is to be constructed.

Considering W1KG15039 and W19802 perhaps we should be marking those as otherTitle - in the new system we have discussed introducing a derivedTitle that would be useful for this situation. Do you agree to use otherTitle for now?

In these cases adding a note to indicate the derivation and such would be helpful. In the new system we expect to be able to attach such a note directly to the title - which we can not currently do.

Do you agree to change portionTitle to otherTitle?

[karmagongde]

Most of the earlier block prints text does not have the hardcover. Modern printed Pecha has the hardcover and needs to check the title difference on hardcover and inside the text. Anyway, when there are the bibliographic title and Full title on the works, it means, the bibliographic title is condensed title and the full title is on the first folio of the text.

@karmagongde thank you for the comments. If I understand correctly, the fullTitle is used when there is no formal titlePageTitle. The TBRC Standard doc should be updated to indicate the fullTitle purpose and how it is to be constructed. A: I added "FullTitle" on TBRC Manual of Standard Library Procedures 1.0

Considering W1KG15039 and W19802 perhaps we should be marking those as otherTitle - in the new system we have discussed introducing a derived title that would be useful for this situation. Do you agree to use otherTitle for now? A: Sure, I changed these two to otherTitle for now. Introducing derived title is a good idea. Thank you.

In these cases adding a note to indicate the derivation and such would be helpful. In the new system we expect to be able to attach such a note directly to the title - which we can not currently do.

Do you agree to change portionTitle to otherTitle? A: I think halfTitle and portionTitle are more similar and if it is easy to change the field name and make one would be better. This is my thought. otherTitle is mostly used for the title in other languages.

[eroux]

I believe there is a problem with the full title as you described it, it seems equal to Caption Title now... if not, what is the difference?

[karmagongde]

The description of Full Title and Caption Title looks almost the same. The Full Title is used only for Tibetan tradition Pecha format text. Maybe, description of Caption Title needs to be changed to: Title of an image or illustration. I will discuss with Jann and Librarians on the list of Titles when Jann returns back from Asia Trips. If it is not too much time consuming to pull out the list of work numbers connected with the Title field such as 1. Caption Title, 2. half Title, 3. Portion Title would be very helpful to check through.

[eroux]

There seems to be no caption title in the DB (at least in the new system, maybe they've been mapped to something else already)

Half title:

"W21818" , "W21518" , "W1KG15039" , "W00EGS1017066" , "W21690" , "W20250" , "W22044" , "W20241" , "W22042" , "W4CZ74356" , "W4CZ307394" , "W2124" , "W22161" , "W21809" , "W3CN5507" , "W4CZ20864" , "W21715" , "W4CZ307410" , "W21560" , "W00KG04001" , "W4CZ307418" , "W20209" , "W1KG4219" , "W3CN16181" , "W22088" , "W20041" , "W22014" , "W4CZ302684" , "W4CZ20869" , "W4CZ307400" ,

Title portion:

"W4CZ31321" , "W1GS148713" , "W22063" , "W1KG3991" , "W1GS60877" , "W4CZ302360" , "W1KG3978" , "W1KG4769" , "W1KG15995" , "W1KG6061" , "W1KG25791" , "W1KG4282" , "W1GS60392" , "W1KG25794" ,

works using full titles are in this file:

fulltitles.csv.zip

Note that there are also many outline nodes using it.