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Change or remove art which makes players uncomfortable. #2481

Open dwvanstone opened 5 years ago

dwvanstone commented 5 years ago

This came out of the forum:

http://buttonweavers.com/ui/forum.html#!threadId=765&postId=16083

"So if we're looking at things that make people uncomfortable, will previous Fanatics be edited?" "Is there a particular Fanatic that you strongly feel shouldn't be here?" "Gman97218"

I wanted to pull it out as a separate discussion. There may be other art on the site that makes people uncomfortable (or may turn potential players away from the site) beyond fanatics.

AdmiralJota commented 5 years ago

Also from that thread:

"As for offensive imagery, Updog displays the confederate battle flag."

(I assume he means opedog.)

AdmiralJota commented 5 years ago

In any case, I'm not personally bothered by gman97218, but if many people are, I don't think it would be a big problem to put a little censor blur over the finger (keeping it within the circle, so it looks like part of the button).

jl8e commented 5 years ago

The only other button art I can think of that people might find offensive is the barely-concealed nipples on the xxxenophile buttons. I do not think they should be changed -- they're actual physical buttons.

I don't think that we should change the gman art, either. It's more absurd than offensive.

I do think we should alter the opedog art; the offense there is along a different axis. It's not like blurring it out will damage the point of the picture; the flag appears to be incidental. (And Georgia stopped using that flag early this century, for the same reason I think we should blur it.)

AdmiralJota commented 5 years ago

Ah, Georgia! That would explain it. It didn't quite look right for a Confederate flag, and it seemed really weird to have a photo of him standing there in front of a real Confederate flag waving, but I couldn't see what the explanation could have been.

I don't suppose anyone has the Photoshop skills to seamlessly replace it with the current flag :)

blackshadowshade commented 5 years ago

I just wanted to comment here that I'm personally not offended by very much at all, but I'm happy to act if there's a genuine issue here, as judged by some others who will understand the issues better than me (e.g., the whole confederate flag thing, which I have no idea about).

jl8e commented 5 years ago

Ah, Georgia! That would explain it. It didn't quite look right for a Confederate flag, and it seemed really weird to have a photo of him standing there in front of a real Confederate flag waving, but I couldn't see what the explanation could have been.

Yeah, it looks like a vacation photo to me, with the flag either incidental to the backdrop or there (along with the sign) to establish location.

e.g., the whole confederate flag thing, which I have no idea about).

I can briefly explain in email if you'd like.

blackshadowshade commented 5 years ago

If it comes down to a situation where I need to understand to make a decision, then I'm happy to hear about the details, but otherwise, I'm happy to be guided by others in this.

CarltonN commented 5 years ago

I, like James, am rather difficult to offend. None of the images bother me. That said, the issue here, i believe, is more about what new users might find offensive. For the aforementioned reasons, i am probably not the best to address those issues.

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jl8e commented 4 years ago

I thought of this thread when we were talking about flavor text changes. I think there's consensus on opedog, and not on the others. I'll make a separate issue for opedog.