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Naming and shaming companies who kowtow to Chinese censorship requests
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Change List Names #167

Open jajanet opened 4 years ago

jajanet commented 4 years ago

The list is a great idea to support the Hong Kong protests, although blacklist and whitelist are ineffective terms in this context.

They don't clearly communicate that one list holds companies that are unsupportive of Hong Kong, and the other has supportive ones. The most these terms communicate are that these companies are bad/good, which are broad and foggy until someone reads the lists' content.

There's also possible racist undertones (which could be seen as especially hypocritical considering this project is meant to promote human rights).

Some Alternatives:

This small change would better communicate the contents of the lists, while avoiding controversial terms.

KuronekoLen commented 4 years ago

There has never been a racist overtone for the term blacklist or whitelist. Ever.

jeremiah-john commented 4 years ago

I don't really think people will get racist undertones from blacklist/whitelist but I do understand the concern. I guess pro-HK/anti-HK would work

jajanet commented 4 years ago

@jeremiah-john Thanks for holistically giving input on the points raised in this issue! It would be good for everyone if the list was clearly labeled; it's even better to be uncontroversial too.

It would be good if others also shared useful input, especially with some reasonable justification.

caffeine-overload commented 4 years ago

So then how many are behind "hall of fame"/"hall of shame" then? The meaning is clear and changing them won't really have any material effect on anything

KuronekoLen commented 4 years ago

I don't really think people will get racist undertones from blacklist/whitelist but I do understand the concern. I guess pro-HK/anti-HK would work

The blacklist is "Kowtowed to a facist nation's demands" and the whitelist is "Told Xi to eat shit". Hong Kong is just one part of the list of reasons you get on the lists.

hodolski commented 4 years ago

How about "Redlist" then?