[BUG] Octane Fitness 37xi connection to QZ app

[nskinner07]

I'm trying to connect my Octane Fitness elliptical (Octane Fitness Q37xi) to the QZ app. Opened QZ, in profile elliptical Elliptical machine says it is connected to QZ, the tiles appear, the heart rate monitor attaches. When I start the activity, no data shows in QZ (distance, calories). Monitor on machine indicates to "choose program" but unable to choose a program, push start, change levels.

I am unable to change/modify resistance levels via the machine. The resistance can be modified via QZ, but it doesn't actually change on the machine.

I'm unsure if it's a settings issue, or a compatibility issue with the machine and QZ. I have manually added the machine

nfr connect showing attached to iPad, as nfr connect is not compatible with my phone. iPad for nfr connect = version 17.0.3 model iPad Air (3rd gen) model number MUUK2C/A iPhone running QZ = iPhone 6s, iOS 15.8 debug attanched, and QZ settings attached.

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[cagnulein]

Hi, all the fake devices settings must be disabled. Disable them, and if it still doesn't work send me another debug. thanks

[nskinner07]

fake device is disabled, just to clarify, fake elliptical should be disabled?

[cagnulein]

Yes fake elliptical is for emulate a fake elliptical :) so you’re emulating one instead of connecting to it :)

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fake device is disabled, just to clarify, fake elliptical should be disabled?

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[cagnulein]

Disable it :)

Il giorno lun 11 dic 2023 alle 21:54 cagnulein @.***> ha scritto:

Yes fake elliptical is for emulate a fake elliptical :) so you’re emulating one instead of connecting to it :)

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fake device is disabled, just to clarify, fake elliptical should be disabled?

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[nskinner07]

If I choose a program on the machine, prior to connecting QZ I can at least modify the resistance (from the machine, not QZ). Here is the debug after turning off fake elliptical and: turing on the machine, choosing quickstart, then opening QZ for connection. debug-Mon_Dec_11_14_03_51_2023.log.txt

[cagnulein]

Thanks, I will check it to, 10pm here. Have a nice day!

Il giorno lun 11 dic 2023 alle 22:13 nskinner07 @.***> ha scritto:

If I choose a program on the machine, prior to connecting QZ I can at least modify the resistance. Here is the debug after turning off fake elliptical and: turing on the machine, choosing quickstart, then opening QZ for connection. debug-Mon_Dec_11_14_03_51_2023.log.txt https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/files/13640976/debug-Mon_Dec_11_14_03_51_2023.log.txt

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[cagnulein]

Similar to https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/issues/1023

That's why probably is not working now. The OP didn't test it. Let's resume this so :)

[nskinner07]

I wasn't even trying to use the app - just connecting QZ directly to the machine.

[cagnulein]

yeah i know, the OP share me the log from that app to help me adding this. I will let you know when I will be ready to test another version

[cagnulein]

@nskinner07 i need a help from your for this: do you see the stats on the console of your elliptical while qz is running? if so, could you please record a video (1 minute is enough) while you're doing a workout, showing me the console with the stats and attach here the video and the debug log of the session (i know that qz is showing all 0 but it's logging all the informations).

So with this video and the debug log, i can fix the parser. If you have also an heart rate belt on the machine, use it as well so i can parse it also.

Let me know!

[cagnulein]

@nskinner07 nevermind i guess i got the speed. in the debug log that you sent me yesterday, you were walking at 6 km/h speed more or less? this is the chart created with ChatGPT

could be right?

[nskinner07]

Could be! I'm about to do some testing for you. For the heart rate monitor - I have various. The one that is supposed to work with the machine isn't recognized by QZ. Do you want me to use one that shows on the machine console, and QZ?

[cagnulein]

Could be! I'm about to do some testing for you.

if you want i have already did the patch, i can send you the beta. send me an email to roberto.viola83 at gmail.com indicating this ticket and if you are on android or iOS.

For the heart rate monitor - I have various. The one that is supposed to work with the machine isn't recognized by QZ. Do you want me to use one that shows on the machine console, and QZ?

yes i would like to test the one of the machine, it should send it over bluetooth so i can also parse it!

[nskinner07]

Sounds great! Email sent.

[nskinner07]

8:43am. Opened console, selected 17min random program. This has varing resistance in the program. Then started QZ. I was using polar brand HR monitor which displays on the machine, but not yet showing on the QZ app. Tried using the "boosters" throughout the workout - not sure if you'll see that on the debug. Added time to the program for total 18m then 19min total towards the end.

9:08 opened QZ first - can't choose the program, or move forward with a workout; Must choose the program first on the machine, then open QZ.

9:10 choose manual program 2m via the machine. Still can not use resistance buttons on QZ to modify resistance. On the machine randomly altered resistance up to 20, then back down. Afterwards tried opening the Octane fitness app on the iPad to see if QZ would be recognized to connect - it is not (yet). I believe I have attached the correct debug logs for the 19m and 2m session.Cadance does not show up on the QZ tiles.  Resistance can not be modified via the tiles.  HR still to come from Roberto debug-Tue_Dec_12_08_43_31_2023.log.txt debug-Tue_Dec_12_09_10_03_2023.log.txt.

[cagnulein]

ok i finally see the speed (that it what i implemented today!). A part some little glitches it worked. Now I will focus on the cadence and HR. Thanks for the test

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Il giorno mar 12 dic 2023 alle ore 17:49 nskinner07 < @.***> ha scritto:

8:43am. Opened console, selected 17min random program. This has varing resistance in the program. Then started QZ. I was using polar brand HR monitor which displays on the machine, but not yet showing on the QZ app. Tried using the "boosters" throughout the workout - not sure if you'll see that on the debug. Added time to the program for total 18m then 19min total towards the end.

9:08 opened QZ first - can't choose the program, or move forward with a workout; Must choose the program first on the machine, then open QZ.

9:10 choose manual program 2m via the machine. Still can not use resistance buttons on QZ to modify resistance. On the machine randomly altered resistance up to 20, then back down. Afterwards tried opening the Octane fitness app on the iPad to see if QZ would be recognized to connect - it is not (yet). I believe I have attached the correct debug logs for the 19m and 2m session.Cadance does not show up on the QZ tiles. Resistance can not be modified via the tiles. HR still to come from Roberto debug-Tue_Dec_12_08_43_31_2023.log.txt https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/files/13650937/debug-Tue_Dec_12_08_43_31_2023.log.txt debug-Tue_Dec_12_09_10_03_2023.log.txt https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/files/13650939/debug-Tue_Dec_12_09_10_03_2023.log.txt .

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[nskinner07]

I'm going to add a couple very blurry, and unsteady videos - it's really hard with the movment and the lighting to get anything usefull for you. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AsHzzx8mA54Y_fQPLVTMoIpRxdI449dn/view?usp=drive_link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ax9aZh28RrFIC908R4NM_ermQ__uSDxu/view?usp=drive_link

[nskinner07]

I'll be off/out for the remainder of the day. Let me know what you need for future testing, and I'll try to get at it when I'm free. Thanks!

[cagnulein]

Yes I will probably work on this again tomorrow, evening already here in italy ;) Have a great day and thanks so far

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Il giorno mar 12 dic 2023 alle ore 18:04 nskinner07 < @.***> ha scritto:

I'll be off/out for the remainder of the day. Let me know what you need for future testing, and I'll try to get at it when I'm free. Thanks!

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[cagnulein]

thanks @nskinner07 some questions: the speed that you see on the display, is the speed or the cadence? maybe it was a 5.6 mi/h? now i'm considering it like km/h so that could be problem for the odometer

[nskinner07]

It was the cadence, but I changed my tiles to show pace, speed now.

debug-Wed_Dec_13_05_24_35_2023.log https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BS6TrBjO5Xk54XgJhyM-FGylRjCXHB7o/view?usp=drive_link

[cagnulein]

Hah ok, so I will move the actual value to cadence. Then I have to find somewhere the pace and the odometer. The log is corrupted, you need to wait the upload before pushing comment. I will let you when a new version will be available

Il giorno mer 13 dic 2023 alle 13:40 nskinner07 @.***> ha scritto:

It was the cadence, but I changed my tiles to show pace, speed now. Uploading debug-Wed_Dec_13_05_24_35_2023.log…

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[nskinner07]

debug-Wed_Dec_13_05_49_02_2023.log.txt https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bf7S1-GIul1T-xUio7G8yT23Md7RRW0A/view?usp=drive_link This is another quick 5min with maybe a better video link.

[cagnulein]

Thanks, I'm about to send a version that should read cadence, resistance, distance and speed. I did A LOT of code for this, so for sure something will not work. Let's find out!

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Il giorno mer 13 dic 2023 alle ore 14:21 nskinner07 < @.***> ha scritto:

debug-Wed_Dec_13_05_49_02_2023.log.txt https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/files/13661109/debug-Wed_Dec_13_05_49_02_2023.log.txt

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bf7S1-GIul1T-xUio7G8yT23Md7RRW0A/view?usp=drive_link This is another quick 5min with maybe a better video link.

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[nskinner07]

Thanks Roberto! I'm just pulling up to work, so maybe tonight! -Nicole

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Thanks, I'm about to send a version that should read cadence, resistance, distance and speed. I did A LOT of code for this, so for sure something will not work. Let's find out!

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Il giorno mer 13 dic 2023 alle ore 14:21 nskinner07 < @.***> ha scritto:

debug-Wed_Dec_13_05_49_02_2023.log.txt < https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/files/13661109/debug-Wed_Dec_13_05_49_02_2023.log.txt>

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bf7S1-GIul1T-xUio7G8yT23Md7RRW0A/view?usp=drive_link This is another quick 5min with maybe a better video link.

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[cagnulein]

no rush :) just sent it! let me know. Have a great day!

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Il giorno mer 13 dic 2023 alle ore 15:28 nskinner07 < @.***> ha scritto:

Thanks Roberto! I'm just pulling up to work, so maybe tonight! -Nicole

On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 7:16 a.m. Roberto Viola @.***> wrote:

Thanks, I'm about to send a version that should read cadence, resistance, distance and speed. I did A LOT of code for this, so for sure something will not work. Let's find out!

Roberto Viola Software engineer and open source enthusiast http://robertoviola.cloud

Il giorno mer 13 dic 2023 alle ore 14:21 nskinner07 < @.***> ha scritto:

debug-Wed_Dec_13_05_49_02_2023.log.txt <

https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/files/13661109/debug-Wed_Dec_13_05_49_02_2023.log.txt>

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bf7S1-GIul1T-xUio7G8yT23Md7RRW0A/view?usp=drive_link

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[nskinner07]

Not sure if this is better... https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BorzFZjbMNq_g7sgXRmyxZb0gIHLizEG/view?usp=drivesdk HR from polar strap Turned on the machine, choose program via machine console. opened QZ, pushed start.

HR from the polar strap still doesn't transmit to QZ. It looked like the odometer was working, but I might not have gone long enough as it was still under 1km, so uploaded to strava as 0km. Still having to change the resistance through the machine console, not the QZ app, but unsure if this functionality is possible through the app like it is on the echelone bike.

Calories might be a bit off :) Take a look at the brief video. debug-Wed_Dec_13_19_34_37_2023.log.txt

[cagnulein]

Do you have the debug log? It will be for sure a stupid thing :) I wrote a lot of code yesterday and without the trainer is impossible to test it :)

Roberto Viola Software engineer and open source enthusiast http://robertoviola.cloud

Il giorno gio 14 dic 2023 alle 04:02 nskinner07 @.***> ha scritto:

Not sure if this is better...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BorzFZjbMNq_g7sgXRmyxZb0gIHLizEG/view?usp=drivesdk

HR from the polar strap still doesn't transmit to QZ. It looked like the odometer was working, but I might not have gone long enough as it was still under 1km, so uploaded to strava as 0km. Caleries might be a bit off :) Take a look at the brief video. Screenshot_20231213_195919_Strava.jpg (view on web) https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/assets/103256662/86a06e5b-03e1-4a54-9ca6-07336322f67b

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[nskinner07]

I see it attached above (below the Strava sceen shot) Are you able to open it?

[cagnulein]

yes thanks i'm checking it right now, thanks @nskinner07

[cagnulein]

thanks, fixed it, both distance, speed and hr. I'm sending it right now. It could be also other issues, but at least it's a step forward ;)

[nskinner07]

Thanks Roberto! I might try on our iPad as well. I have QZ on the iPad, but TestFlight is his profile, because its under his apple ID . Can you grant access to @.***, or send a verification code?

Then I can test on both devices. -Nicole

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 5:32 a.m. Roberto Viola @.***> wrote:

thanks, fixed it, both distance, speed and hr. I'm sending it right now. It could be also other issues, but at least it's a step forward ;)

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[cagnulein]

github is hiding your email address, send me it by email, thanks :)

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Il giorno gio 14 dic 2023 alle 13:40 nskinner07 @.***> ha scritto:

Thanks Roberto! I might try on our iPad as well. I have QZ on the iPad, but TestFlight is his profile, because its under his apple ID . Can you grant access to @.***, or send a verification code?

Then I can test on both devices. -Nicole

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thanks, fixed it, both distance, speed and hr. I'm sending it right now. It could be also other issues, but at least it's a step forward ;)

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[nskinner07]

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For whatever reason my debug won't upload via device. Give me a minute to edit adding from desktop.

Overall, looks like it's still off.

Edit to add debug: HR is still not appearing via polar HR strap (honestly not a big deal, as I think I did have other HRM's that worked. The calibration of something looks off. The speed on the console = cadence on QZ, but that throws off speed and the odometer in QZ. Resistance does look like it works when modifying from the console. debug-Thu_Dec_14_05_55_42_2023.log.txt

I'll try via iPad later. debug-Thu_Dec_14_05_55_42_2023.log.txt

[cagnulein]

@nskinner07 it looks like you are using the same old build for this test. you have to update on the test flight app. must be build 681. this log is from 679 (you can read this in the test flight app)

Let me know!

[nskinner07]

Weird.... I'll try again later!

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@nskinner07 https://github.com/nskinner07 it looks like you are using the same old build for this test. you have to update on the test flight app. must be build 681. this log is from 679 (you can read this in the test flight app)

Let me know!

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[sethgregory]

Jumping into this thread as I have the same machine and am available to do testing as well. Was going to upload https://youtu.be/2Dg_l-Qoi2M to my other issue thread - from when we worked on this earlier this year, it now at least connects, but the whole first half of this screen capture I'm not even standing on the elliptical and it thinks I'm moving. Probably just values assigned to the wrong attributes?

(I am on version 2.16.27)

[cagnulein]

Welcome back @sethgregory are you on android right? So download the trial of qz that builds automatically from CI from here https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/suites/19044321633/artifacts/1114611055 and give it a quick test. It's the same build that @nskinner07 is trying.

Share a debug log when you will do. Thanks

P.S. you have to remove the qz version from the play store to install this but of course you can reinstall it later without paying anything

[sethgregory]

I am on Android, but that link currently 404s for me.

EDIT: Thanks, it tricked me because I was logged into the Github app but not in the browser.

[cagnulein]

You need to be logged in on github on that browser to download this file @sethgregory

[sethgregory]

Adding my debug log here. I see the same behavior as @nskinner07 where the speed from the elliptical shows under cadence on QZ, but not consistently.

[cagnulein]

@sethgregory i understood from @nskinner07 that that value was the cadence not the speed, did I misunderstand?

[sethgregory]

That may be the case, but the Q37xi lists it as "speed" - in the case of the screenshot above, 46 is the highest speed achieved per the LCD screen on the elliptical and while I'm fast, I definitely wasn't running 46km/h. :) That said, it seemed to oscillate its value between the speed listed on the machine and "3" quite frequently.

[sethgregory]

Per the instructions manual, "speed" on the Q37xi is indeed an RPM measurement. Also, the Q37xi has a fixed stride length of 20.5 inches (52cm).

[cagnulein]

Hah perfect so I can use this data to calculate the speed! Let me fix this!

[sethgregory]

I noticed, too, that on the Play Store version the resistance value is always set to 5 but on this test build the resistance value does successfully update when it is changed on the elliptical console (reads the correct value.) However, it is not bidirectional (cannot be set on the machine by changing it in QZ.)

[cagnulein]

yes i didn't add the ability to change resistance yet, i would like to fix the metrics first

[cagnulein]

done it's building @sethgregory https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/actions/runs/7213188158 you will see the apk when it's done (more or less 30 minutes from now). Let me know I will expect to see the right cadence, speed and distance now

[cagnulein]

@sethgregory build ready https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/suites/19056340349/artifacts/1115558737

[nskinner07]

Per the instructions manual, "speed" on the Q37xi is indeed an RPM measurement. Also, the Q37xi has a fixed stride length of 20.5 inches (52cm).

Thanks @sethgregory!