Closed thekaveman closed 9 months ago
Conclusion: I don't think we should or need to integrate Ditto with our GitHub/translation process just yet. But we can in the future, integrating Ditto with CrowdIn (a translation tool that iBabbleOn, our contractor, uses). For this next sprint, I think we can use Ditto to export a CSV into the existing spreadsheet and use the same process of developers copy-pasting text from spreadsheet into PO files.
Export the English language strings as CSV. It includes a link to the Figma screen the copy is on, which we were doing manually before. This will save us time.
Upload this CSV as a new tab into the spreadsheet we currently have been using.
Send the spreadsheet to iBabbleOn
Developers manually input new text.
I think this might be harder because of the way we have our PO files set up right now, where we got rid of the unique ID for every string. Ditto assigns an ID for every string, which could then allow us to key that copy in for each ID and use some code/integration to get Ditto to export a file that updates strings for each ID. But that would require us to go back to create unique IDs for every string. Kinda cumbersome.
An extra note on the Ditto <> CrowdIn integration (or any integration with Ditto, it seems): this requires the Developer add-on for the Ditto workspace, in order to interact with the Ditto APIs.
Hence we should factor this into any cost proposal cc @indexing @srhhnry
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like we wouldn't need the Developer add-on to continue business as usual (i.e. export to CSV, content localization process, integrate back into github), and taking advantage of the Github integration requires reconfiguring the .po files which is not something that would be done absent this integration.
From the design side of things, there's plenty to work with in Ditto that doesn't require an upgrade. I don't think we need commenter seats (e.g. giving agencies or other stakeholders direct access to copy), nor do I think we need more the ability to create more than 20 components for the foreseeable future.
This leads me to the suggestion that we only upgrade to a paid version of the service after this sprint, or if and when we decided to work on the future sprint refactors @machikoyasuda described.
@thekaveman Do we need to make a decision about tool usage immediately--as in, are we still in budget discussions for the upcoming year? Or can we wait and see, and potentially request budget a few sprints from now after auditioning the product?
I think we do need Developer Add-On to export the copy to CSV:
The Starter tier doesn't have export to CSV:
But I don't really get it cos I was able to do it when I tested the app for free(!?!?)
I was very surprised I could export too! I’ll dig more into whatever draft mode is, as I haven’t seen a functional difference yet.
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I'll check in with the support team tomorrow (they're offline right now), but I don't see why we would have the ability to export to CSV right now unless it's some 30 day demo thing.
Yeah, I'm going to guess it's some intro mode. I just got an email saying that developer integrations have just been enabled for the workspace. More to come tomorrow.
@srhhnry is talking to Ditto about pricing/plan details on Tuesday 2/27
Updates from Ditto:
Ditto pricing is bound by number of seats and number of components, so we have access to all the features, including both the CSV export and the developer plugin, as long as we don't need to create more than 20 components or add more than 4 people. According to the support person I spoke with all roads in Ditto lead to components, but there are some work arounds (e.g. pushing changes to similar text at the same time, sort of like a find and replace all). I imagine we'll discover over time if the components are useful for more than just organizing copy.
So I don't think we'll need more than 4 seats anytime soon, but if we wanted to use the component feature more aggressively then the monthly pricing would likely be as follows:
So $100 per month, or $1200 for the year.
@thekaveman are we being locked into our yearly budget with Xentrans anytime soon or do we have time to decide if we need the paid tier?
I think we can mark this as complete for now.
Machiko provided an overview of the GitHub integration and recommendations that we do not pursue that option at this time.
@srhhnry has engaged with Ditto and will lead the effort to integrate Ditto into Figma and the wider copy development process in the coming sprints.
@thekaveman @srhhnry Our translators use Crowdin to do translation. If we proceed with Ditto, we will need to setup this integration. https://store.crowdin.com/dittowords
From @srhhnry:
Acceptance Criteria
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