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Fix family/style discrepancy for Ubuntu Condensed #20

Closed djrrb closed 2 years ago

djrrb commented 2 years ago

UbuntuCondensed-Regular has width name in family name. Other weights have Condensed in style name, matching variable named instances. Look to similar multiwidth variable+static families and set names appropriately in designspace

xxdgwxx commented 2 years ago

Right now everything is in the same dropdown menu in InDesign. This may be intentional. However, they could nest in a more intuitive way. Right now this is what I see:

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Possibly related, the Cond Bold is showing up as Cond Bold Italic. My instinct is to check the OS/2 table for improved nesting.

glenda-tn commented 2 years ago

The advantage of separating the Condensed from the default weight passes on to the user. If you have a paragraph set in the default weight using RIBBI, and you decide you want to change it to the Condensed, one only has to change the Family from Ubuntu to Ubuntu Condensed. Otherwise, one has to select the text of each style and update them accordingly. I have seen designers do it both ways. One results in a super long menu, while the other offers shorter menus due to the grouping.

And of course, in Win, this is all thrown out the door.

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djrrb commented 2 years ago

Cond Bold / Italic issue fixed.

Latest files (without version in suffix): https://github.com/djrrb/Ubuntu-fonts/tree/condensed/fonts

For the static fonts, I have Condensed as its own family, as it was previously. (Not sure if Google Fonts will have anything to say about that.)

For the variable font, I was under the impression that even though it was theoretically possible to split up a single VF file into multiple families, this was not implemented in apps. Let me know if that’s now allowed and I’m happy to make them consistent. Otherwise it’s best as one big long style menu.

I agree the menu order is no good. @guidoferreyra I remember you talking about this in the salon...is there an issue with the axis order in the designspace or config? https://github.com/djrrb/Ubuntu-fonts/blob/main/sources/config.yaml#L4-L7

djrrb commented 2 years ago

Following up, it appears that currently this is how InDesign will sort the menu items when Roman and Italic are stored in separate fonts. Even VFs produced by Adobe itself have this ordering.

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So if everyone is good with static fonts having Condensed in the family name for static fonts (matching the existing Condensed) and then in the style name for the VF named instances, I’ll close this next week. When Google Fonts reviews they can tell us if they prefer a different arrangement.