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Semantic Network of Adposition and Case Supersenses: Annotation Guidelines
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a month has gone BY #121

Open esmanning opened 3 years ago

esmanning commented 3 years ago

While we have been talking together a month has gone BY lpp_14 sent_id = lpp_1943.797

We encountered differing intuitions on whether this is an aspectual MWE (akin to e.g. fade_away, #103), or if it's just a metaphorical use of "go by" as in "I go BY that coffee shop every morning." (Path)

nschneid commented 3 years ago

The path sense of BY can be paraphrased as PAST. Can you say "a month has gone PAST"? Sounds a bit marked or unidiomatic to me, though not totally horrible.

You could also say the time has flown by, or passed us by. So the metaphor is at least somewhat productive. But I don't know if it's a good fit for any of the Temporal subcategories. Calling it an MWE may be the least bad solution.

esmanning commented 3 years ago

"a month has gone PAST" sounds fine to me (and has 17,000 google hits)

esmanning commented 3 years ago

I think the reason the time construction feels fundamentally different than the Path one to me is that in the time use, it has to be intransitive: "*a month has gone by the coffee shop" is terrible; maybe you could say "a month has gone/past by us" but that doesn't feel quite right either (but "past us by" is ok); whereas in the Path meaning, you need an object: "I go by every morning" only works with context

nschneid commented 3 years ago

Where/which way did you go? By the coffee shop.

Where did the time go? #By us.