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Semantic Network of Adposition and Case Supersenses: Annotation Guidelines
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ABOVE a value #59

Closed esmanning closed 4 years ago

esmanning commented 4 years ago

If it's ABOVE 126 mg/dL it's most likely diabetes task_014 new_doc id = 7b5a3de5-095f-02aa-80c6-c7032b9b017c sent_id = 4

Settled on Approximator (cf. 'over 3 eggs' in guidelines), but also wondered if 'above' was locusier enough to warrant Approximator~Locus

nschneid commented 4 years ago

Hmm. My gut feeling is this is just Locus: 126 mg/dL is a specific point on a scale, as is "it" (the unknown blood sugar measurement?), and the relation between them is that the former is above the latter. This is like saying "5 is greater than 4".

An Approximator usually establishes a range on a scale in reference to one of its bounds: "It cost OVER 10 dollars" doesn't specify an exact cost, but identifies an open interval of all costs exceeding $10. BETWEEN X and Y forms a closed interval between two points. ABOUT forms a fuzzy range around the specific point.

Note that you wouldn't normally say "I bought ABOVE a dozen eggs" or "I drank ABOVE a gallon of water"; you would say OVER. This special construction with P + measurement + head N selects for Approximators.

nschneid commented 4 years ago

Another option is that what we call Approximator is really about a cluster of related constructions that use a subset of Locus prepositions to talk about scalar ranges. We COULD decide that "Approximator" is really more of a syntactic label than a semantic one.

nschneid commented 4 years ago

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nschneid commented 4 years ago

"without directly connecting" -> "without establishing a relation"

nschneid commented 4 years ago

let's change "3 eggs" to "a dozen eggs", as it sounds weird to approximate such a precise number

nschneid commented 4 years ago

In general, in copular sentences, the Approximator reading of the complement is dispreferred.

nschneid commented 4 years ago

"(446) features a copular sentence with a preposition at the beginning of a predicate complement. In cases like this, is arguably ambiguous whether the preposition acts as a modifier of the quantity, which would suggest Approximator, or establishes a relation between subject and predicate, which would suggest ComparisonRef~>Locus. In general we prefer the latter analysis."