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Semantic Network of Adposition and Case Supersenses: Annotation Guidelines
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ON + side #8

Open nschneid opened 4 years ago

nschneid commented 4 years ago

Side in an argument sense. "Is he on our side, or on the side of the special interests?"

Should it be an MWE: ON_ OUR _side?

ON=Characteristic?~>Locus, OUR=Gestalt

nschneid commented 4 years ago

What about OUR=Beneficiary~>Gestalt? If you are FOR a candidate, you are also on HER side.

nschneid commented 4 years ago

Cf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9014vq1lqXM

nschneid commented 4 years ago

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aryamanarora commented 3 years ago

Found this example in a large unlabelled internet corpus: https://twitter.com/EmmaSManning/status/1291936465673506823

More seriously, Characteristic~Locus seems nice, as a parallel to [406] John is FOR/AGAINST the war. But also note that "I am on your side." => "I agree with you.", so maybe the possessive is Experiencer\~Gestalt? Put another way, "your side" = "your opinion on the issue".

nschneid commented 3 years ago

This is idiomatic/metaphoric so it involves the question of how far we want to go in interpreting the target meaning of a figurative expression.

I would say that "on X's side" does evoke some sort of opposition between two sides (force dynamics!) in which the two parties are similarly situated or helping/cooperating with each other against the other side. But it need not be about opinion—it could be a physical battle, for instance. A general term might be "affiliation".

We would normally expect Experiencer to be one side of a relation between a participant and an event. With an idiomatic PP, that's not clear-cut here. IOW it's not clear to me that "being on a side" is an experience per se. I suppose it is the result of a judgment, which may have been based on an opinion.

jenahwang commented 3 years ago

How about Ancillary~Locus? 🙃

nschneid commented 3 years ago

Though I would say "with" is a construal as well I could live with Ancillary~Locus.