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Are the personas and pathways representative? #3

Open cassgvp opened 4 years ago

cassgvp commented 4 years ago

Please review the persona and pathway pages

lazaral commented 4 years ago

I think the personas look great and are very relatable and realistic.

In my experience time is the most common barrier at all stages - I think comparing time availability to different degrees of rainy weather was absolutely brilliant :)

Just a couple ideas:

cassgvp commented 4 years ago

Comment from Verena Heise:

Persona and pathway description

Barriers:

TulikaN commented 4 years ago

This is my favourite part of the website - it is beautifully done! It really emphasises that you can participate even if you are uncertain about having enough computational skills, or face other barriers. Along the lines of what @lazaral says, would be helpful to have a couple examples of positive experiences of engaging in open science. An example - like many other researchers, he/she had no/ little formal training in coding and was very hesitant to show their code to anyone else. Taking the first step and sharing with a colleague helped them to get feedback that made their coding practices a lot more efficient and now they feel much more confident about their skills.

ludogriffanti commented 4 years ago

I like the very concrete examples! I don't fully find myself in one persona, but can relate to some aspects of some personas and overall I think they are a good representation of the likely scenarios.

I think the persona described by Verena is a good addition: even if someone thinks they are doing great with open science can do better or is doing something not compliant with regulation and should have support.

Technical problem: the links to the single personas don't work for me.

mjaquiery commented 4 years ago

Using personas for thinking about engagement seems like an interesting approach to me. I quite understand the order the steps are presented in, but I might be tempted to reorder it so that the personae themselves lead the way, and the thinking about how they were constructed is pushed into the background a little: if the personae do their job then the specifics of how they are constructed will be relatively unimportant for most intents and purposes. Having the personae on the front page of the Personas and Pathways tab would be helpful, I think. Perhaps with a short profile box for each and a link to the greater detail?

I'm not in the WIN, but one thing that struck me clearly in the personae was an absence of anyone actually interested in Open Scholarship stuff! (I think Verena mentioned this, too; I haven't had much time to read this thread!) Presumably you want to engage these people and have a plan for capturing their enthusiasm to help with the project? Perhaps you have in mind ways you can make it easy and efficient for them to integrate whatever OS activities they do off their own bat with your project?

None of the personae thus far appear to discover or make first contact through any of the project outputs, or through a need to pursue OS practices due to e.g. journal requirements (I have to share data - how can I make it anonymous, where do I put it?). Is that an ambition? It seems it might provide an increasingly broad contact surface with the rest of the WIN (and beyond?) as the project develops, and particularly chimes with the desires of your personae to be contributors over mere consumers.

It's not at all clear to me what the isolated sentence about Martha's Rules on the Motivations page is doing there.

In line with some things probably mentioned already, additional barriers might come from objections from supervisors/PIs/other leaders ("your time would be better spent doing..."; "I worry that we'll get scooped if..."; "I don't think open access is important enough to aim for").

cassgvp commented 4 years ago

Technical problem: the links to the single personas don't work for me.

Thanks @ludogriffanti. These have now been fixed in 4ebde6778594e2c1610a1a4d30c0f0dc05e64a68

cassgvp commented 4 years ago

Thank you all for your comments and suggestions around new persona(s) to develop. I didn't want to go in too heavy with too many personas, but perhaps we can think about how it is structured and what impact the missing ones will have on the project planning. 🤔🤔🤔

Interesting to note that most of my thoughts have been around how to create new interest in open research. Certainly need to consider how we continue to reward and support people who are already engaged!! 🌺

JasleenKJolly commented 3 years ago

I love this way of presenting opportunities. I think it's also great that everyone is worried about time commitment as this is realistic!