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Use of CC logos #221

Open janetpkr opened 9 years ago

janetpkr commented 9 years ago

This is more up for discussion.. I know that all photos are going to be CC BY so there is no need to mark each photo as such or display logos at all, but considering we want other mobile apps to possibly display CC logos when presenting CC content, should we exhibit some kind of best practice for mobile display of license?

At the very least display license icon logo in the About page where it links to license deed.

ryanmerkley commented 9 years ago

Jane +1 to using this as an opportunity to set the bar for how we do mobile attribution. I'm not yet clear in this issue where we're referring to it, thought: in the gallery, in the app, or elsewhere? It also makes me wonder if we can embed information that the image came from the CC The List app in the images using EXIF, XMP, or other. Would be ideal to track that, but that may be a separate bug.

mattl commented 9 years ago

XMP has support for a User Agent, which we should take advantage of.

mattl commented 9 years ago

I moved the XMP over to https://github.com/creativecommons/list/issues/229

@janeatcc if you could tell us more of your thoughts.

janetpkr commented 9 years ago

So my thoughts are in their infant stages, but if we think about how we ideally want CC licensed images to show up on users' phones, I imagine three layers:

  1. technical - XMP or other embed that is carried with image and invisible to user
  2. social - visible logo and clear, less-than-tweet-size statement explaining that image is free to use with link to "learn more", which is..
  3. legal - link to deed (which if not already, is formatted for mobile phone viewing)

I'm thinking this is for the photo view itself. Not an ugly watermark, but if you tap or double-tap the image in a gallery the photo might flip to reveal attribution info on the back with really clean, minimal info such as:

CC logo next to BY icon by JohnDoe Share and adapt but give me credit. Learn more at https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

This could also pop up (not flip) and pop down again if you tap it. Whatever's easiest, but it goes with the image view.

I realize this isn't necessary for The List since default for all is CC BY, but something to think about for CC licensed images on mobile generally. For the List at a minimum we should have the logo in the About page where we explain the default license terms, and maybe the gallery view in the upper right or lower right corner, with an "about" line that says something like, "This is your gallery of CC BY images. They have been sent to [Internet Archive link]."

I just want to make sure we make the CC license really visible to the user of the app, keep reminding them that their photos are really going somewhere to be reused, that they are contributing to the commons, not just taking photos for a personal gallery in their phones.

mattl commented 9 years ago

Right now, the app only shows your images.

@perpetuatingcuriosity what's the Android-way of doing this tapping thing which Jane mentions?

perpetuatingcuriosity commented 9 years ago

Hey @janeatcc I think this sounds great. I like the idea of making licensing more visible in the app, especially if The List will support multiple types of licensing in the future. Is this something we’re thinking about? I think that will make a difference when deciding what we can add right now.

@mattl I don’t think there is an “android-way” for the particular interaction Jane is mentioning. It would likely have to be a custom view.

I think once we have a feed of photos, we’ll definitely have options as to where we’d like to communicate licensing information. E.g.: EyeEm:

eyeem2 What if we put a clickable one-liner with the license just below the description?

eyeem1 Or maybe we add licensing in an overflow menu (“Share”, “View license”, “Report this photo”) (overflow menus are those 3 vertical dots)

I would recommend checking out EyeEm if you’re not familiar! They have a lot of features that I think we’d also like for the list, like “Missions”: different organizations have timed photographic challenges that anyone can participate in.

mattl commented 9 years ago

-1 multiple licenses On Apr 17, 2015 3:05 PM, "perpetuatingcuriosity" notifications@github.com wrote:

Hey @janeatcc https://github.com/janeatcc I think this sounds great. I like the idea of making licensing more visible in the app, especially if The List will support multiple types of licensing in the future. Is this something we’re thinking about? I think that will make a difference when deciding what we can add right now.

@mattl https://github.com/mattl I don’t think there is an “android-way” for the particular interaction Jane is mentioning. It would likely have to be a custom view.

I think once we have a feed of photos, we’ll definitely have options as to where we’d like to communicate that information. E.g.: EyeEm:

[image: eyeem2] https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/6563209/7208946/311fd524-e512-11e4-9efd-d37fe8e5c3c4.jpg Below the description one-liner?

[image: eyeem1] https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/6563209/7208948/3292cb5a-e512-11e4-9219-00deb42738dc.jpg Or maybe in an overflow menu (“Share”, “View license”, “Report this photo”)

I would recommend checking out EyeEm if you’re not familiar! They have a lot of features that I think we’d also like for the list, like “Missions”: different organizations have timed photographic challenges that anyone can participate in.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/creativecommons/list/issues/221#issuecomment-94054106 .

mattl commented 9 years ago

We're having some discussion about this with another app right now, may influence this.