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Clio V Multi Sense #723

Closed MarVentura closed 1 year ago

MarVentura commented 2 years ago

In the past few days I've seen that is possible to activate multi sense on Clios V that don't bring it from factory. Does anybody know the correct path to do it ?

eldimoni1 commented 1 year ago

¿Te sientes lo suficientemente valiente como para usar AIVI_ 2.6 si aparece en la lista DDT4ALL de ECU seleccionándolo manualmente?

Su ECU (AIVI21 parece tener una fecha del 12/06/2021 y AIVI_2.6 parece tener una fecha del 09/02/2021

solo si eres valiente y quieres arriesgarte: si solo lees y ves todo en fondos ROJOS, ahora no será compatible en absoluto.

de donde se puede sacar la ecu A IVI 2.1? yo tengo la AIVI. 2.6

eldimoni1 commented 1 year ago

Sí, lo intentaré en unas horas. ¿Puedo probar también con 2.7 y 2.8 que son del 2022 o mucho riesgo?

primero antes de cambiar nada, hazle una fotografia a los parametros, y luego intenta cambiarlos, asi si pasa algo lo puedes volver a grabar, si te sale No Data, es, o que no se puede cambiar o que no lo puede leer... de donde has sacado las del 2022? yo tengo la del 2021, lo lee pero no lo graba, solo la camara trasera, los demas parametros si, me han comentado que ha de ser con la can clip y el token de renault

AndyIreland commented 1 year ago

¿Te sientes lo suficientemente valiente como para usar AIVI_ 2.6 si aparece en la lista DDT4ALL de ECU seleccionándolo manualmente? Su ECU (AIVI21 parece tener una fecha del 12/06/2021 y AIVI_2.6 parece tener una fecha del 09/02/2021 solo si eres valiente y quieres arriesgarte: si solo lees y ves todo en fondos ROJOS, ahora no será compatible en absoluto.

de donde se puede sacar la ecu A IVI 2.1? yo tengo la AIVI. 2.6

you could try this 'bigger' ecu list: https://github.com/cedricp/ddt4all/issues/713#issuecomment-1368113934

AndyIreland commented 1 year ago

Sí, lo intentaré en unas horas. ¿Puedo probar también con 2.7 y 2.8 que son del 2022 o mucho riesgo?

primero antes de cambiar nada, hazle una fotografia a los parametros, y luego intenta cambiarlos, asi si pasa algo lo puedes volver a grabar, si te sale No Data, es, o que no se puede cambiar o que no lo puede leer... de donde has sacado las del 2022? yo tengo la del 2021, lo lee pero no lo graba, solo la camara trasera, los demas parametros si, me han comentado que ha de ser con la can clip y el token de renault

yes more than likely if you can read but not change parameters either the security gateway is blocking it (as fitted on later Renault cars) or chosen wrong ECU.

You need token to unlock or some people reckon they have bypassed gateway by wiring OBD2 directly to BCM or easyconnet radio wiring at the back of the dash.

eldimoni1 commented 1 year ago

Sí, lo intentaré en unas horas. ¿Puedo probar también con 2.7 y 2.8 que son del 2022 o mucho riesgo?

primero antes de cambiar nada, hazle una fotografía a los parámetros, y luego intenta cambiarlos, asi si pasa algo lo puedes volver a grabar, si te sale No Data, es, o que no se puede cambiar o que no lo puede leer.. .de donde ha sacado las del 2022? yo tengo la del 2021, lo lee pero no lo graba, solo la camara trasera, los demas parametros si, me han comentado que ha de ser con la can clip y el token de renault

Sí, lo más probable es que, si puede leer pero no cambiar los parámetros, la puerta de enlace de seguridad lo esté bloqueando (como se instala en los automóviles Renault posteriores) o haya elegido la ECU incorrecta.

movil 725 movil 736 movil 723 movil 737 movil 772 movil 747 y en el BCM, luces diurnas traseras activadas movil 722 movil 718

DrPleb commented 1 year ago

if that were me I would try - although could be dangerous ... not actually reading the ECU because you are only reading and not changing parameters.

Lets put it this way I havent got a ZE50 EV just got a ZE20 EV with an rlink1 (and no security gateway like the ZE50 and Clio5) - well when I was adding Android Auto to the r-link1 I chose a much later Navigation and it all went swimmingly and fine. It might be different on the Clio5 easyconnect I wouldnt know, I havent one to test it out on.

make notes of your settings - or try making a backup dump file first with PYREN before changing any settings (if Clio5/ZE50 easyconnect works with PYREN, I think it should) - it might just get you out of trouble later on if you can load the settings back on to get you back to how you was should you brick it

is this correct?

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eldimoni1 commented 1 year ago

Si fuera yo, lo intentaría, aunque podría ser peligroso... en realidad no leer la ECU porque solo estás leyendo y no cambiando parámetros. Digámoslo de esta manera: no tengo un ZE50 EV, solo compré un ZE20 EV con un rlink1 (y sin puerta de enlace de seguridad como el ZE50 y el Clio5). Bueno, cuando estaba agregando Android Auto al r-link1, elegí una Navegación y todo salió a la perfección y bien. Puede que sea diferente en el Clio5 easyconnect. No lo sé, no tengo nadie para probarlo. tome notas de su configuración, o intente crear un archivo de copia de seguridad primero con PYREN antes de cambiar cualquier configuración (si Clio5/ZE50 easyconnect funciona con PYREN, creo que debería hacerlo); podría sacarlo de problemas más adelante si puede cargar Vuelva a activar la configuración para que vuelva a ser como estaba en caso de que la bloquee.

¿es esto correcto?

imagen

movil 729 este es el mio en el A IVI 1.10

DrPleb commented 1 year ago

On latest version of ddt4all that can't connect to my OBD, there is this section and i think that this is my ecuPXL_20231013_172041898.MP.jpg

If i try a-ivi 2.8 with ddt4all 2019 that can connect to my obd and I change to Android Auto wireless...wireless on the car is enabled but Android Auto Wireless doesn't work, it crashes, and also wifi on the car keep loading to infinite. I tried also to set up Renault RS screen and doesn't happen anything, I think i have to make this ddt4all version to work because as you can see there is my A_IVI...but I don't know why it doesn't connect, i m using it in demo mode right now. When it tries to connect to my OBD it keeps loading to infinite...

eldimoni1 commented 1 year ago

Arkana, clio 5, captur 2 ,tienen casi los mismos parametros movil 659

AndyIreland commented 1 year ago

this correct?

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yep that looks good - green ones are the 'READ ECU'

did you press 'Hard Reset' afterwards?

DrPleb commented 1 year ago

this correct?

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yep that looks good - green ones are the 'READ ECU'

did you press 'Hard Reset' afterwards?

Of course, and the easylink reboots. And my edits works because the wifi section on the car appears but if I try to connect android auto wireless it crashes and also my phone keep searching for android auto device

AndyIreland commented 1 year ago

this correct?

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yep that looks good - green ones are the 'READ ECU' did you press 'Hard Reset' afterwards?

Of course, and the easylink reboots. And my edits works because the wifi section on the car appears but if I try to connect android auto wireless it crashes and also my phone keep searching for android auto device

What android version is installed on your Android phone? - I think wireless android auto works on android phones with android version 11 or 12 only. If you have got correct version on your phone go into settings for wireless android auto and make sure that is all set up correctly.

Try going into android auto app settings on the phone and in the storage settings , then press 'force stop' then 'clear cache' then 'clear data' - then setup android auto again on the phone

jordirs2004 commented 1 year ago

this correct?

image

yep that looks good - green ones are the 'READ ECU'

did you press 'Hard Reset' afterwards?

Of course, and the easylink reboots. And my edits works because the wifi section on the car appears but if I try to connect android auto wireless it crashes and also my phone keep searching for android auto device

What is the version of your easylink ? Because android auto wireless only work on the last update of the easylink only available in the Renault garage. But be careful, activate all you want on the easylink link before the update because after, the easylink will be locked and you can't modify anything IMG_20230504_170214_exported_1697224863091.jpg

DrPleb commented 1 year ago

this correct?

image

yep that looks good - green ones are the 'READ ECU'

did you press 'Hard Reset' afterwards?

Of course, and the easylink reboots. And my edits works because the wifi section on the car appears but if I try to connect android auto wireless it crashes and also my phone keep searching for android auto device

What is the version of your easylink ? Because android auto wireless only work on the last update of the easylink only available in the Renault garage. But be careful, activate all you want on the easylink link before the update because after, the easylink will be locked and you can't modify anything IMG_20230504_170214_exported_1697224863091.jpg

Ew....glad to hear that... My version is like 06/2022 or something similar...i haven't received any updates since that. How can I get that update from Renault? Is there anyone that can download it?

jordirs2004 commented 1 year ago

You have to go to your local dealer to ask the update I told that my bluetooth has some issue and they did the update But as I told, activate everything you want before because after it will not be possible

AndyIreland commented 1 year ago

You have to go to your local dealer to ask the update I told that my bluetooth has some issue and they did the update But as I told, activate everything you want before because after it will not be possible

wow really good to know.

Is it likely this latest update will not be delivered through OTA updates as normal?

DrPleb commented 1 year ago

Is this free or they make you pay for it?

matzel82 commented 1 year ago

Not every update. Some important updates are only possible at the Dealer. Now it's changed some things with carplay

jordirs2004 commented 1 year ago

Is this free or they make you pay for it?

For me, it was free but my car is still on waranty. The update is available at least since april in the Renault dealer

matzel82 commented 1 year ago

Sometimes you have to pay for it

DrPleb commented 1 year ago

I'm using the lates 23.06.11 version of ddt4all, and I cannot connect to the obd, anyone can tell me how to make this work? i'm on windows...

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eldimoni1 commented 1 year ago

es USB?

AndyIreland commented 1 year ago

es USB?

with an address like that it looks wifi adaptor

AndyIreland commented 1 year ago

,, my edits works because the wifi section on the car appears I'm using the lates 23.06.11 version of ddt4all, and I cannot connect to the obd,

just curious if you connected fine and have changed the settings OK already with the earlier version why are you trying to connect now with the later version?

DrPleb commented 1 year ago

it is wifi And i'm trying with the latest version because ddt4all in this version is more complete... I want to try with that if changes something, was just curious to test it

AndyIreland commented 1 year ago

it is wifi And i'm trying with the latest version because ddt4all in this version is more complete... I want to try with that if changes something, was just curious to test it

'trying' - meaning the wireless android auto you mean , or some different settings / enable/disable parameters you cannot with the earlier DDT4ALL Version ?

DrPleb commented 1 year ago

On latest version of ddt4all that can't connect to my OBD, there is this section and i think that this is my ecuPXL_20231013_172041898.MP.jpg

If i try a-ivi 2.8 with ddt4all 2019 that can connect to my obd and I change to Android Auto wireless...wireless on the car is enabled but Android Auto Wireless doesn't work, it crashes, and also wifi on the car keep loading to infinite. I tried also to set up Renault RS screen and doesn't happen anything, I think i have to make this ddt4all version to work because as you can see there is my A_IVI...but I don't know why it doesn't connect, i m using it in demo mode right now. When it tries to connect to my OBD it keeps loading to infinite...

As you can see there, this menu is not present in ddt4all 2019, as the car model CLIO V phase2. Maybe if I apply the settings with that, changes something.

AndyIreland commented 1 year ago

I dunno if this would work, it could do.

Install the new version & Copy the ECU's folder (or ECU.zip folder) to another location on hard drive , Then Uninstall the new version of DDT4ALL , then install 2017 version of DDT4ALL (you could download it from here: https://www.drive2.ru/b/498093336985338243/ and choose 'All Cars' then go to folder where it installed (more than likely program files x386 and then copy the ECUS Folder (or ecu.zip) that you downloaded earlier and then start up DDT4ALL from the desktop icon

eldimoni1 commented 1 year ago

No sé si esto funcionaría, podría funcionar.

Instale la nueva versión y copie la carpeta de la ECU (o carpeta ECU.zip) a otra ubicación en el disco duro, luego desinstale la nueva versión de DDT4ALL, luego instale la versión 2017 de DDT4ALL (puede descargarla desde aquí: https:// www .drive2.ru/b/498093336985338243/ y elija 'Todos los autos', luego vaya a la carpeta donde se instaló (lo más probable es que los archivos de programa x386 y luego copie la carpeta ECUS (o ecu.zip) que descargó anteriormente y luego inicie DDT4ALL desde el icono del escritorio

esta es la dd4all que yo tengo ,con la base ddt 2000 personalizada con 3618 ecus.. y el clio xja phase 2 a mi no me sale

eldimoni1 commented 11 months ago

hola, a ver si alguien me puede dar algo de luz, resulta que he activado la camara trasera, + o -, resulta que si le doy a configuracion de la pantalla se puede ver ,la imagen ,tanto la camara trasera como las lineas, color, etc, pero si pongo la marcha atras, me da la señal como un fogonazo de imagen y se va, se queda con la vision de los sensores en negro, ah, y se ve en efecto espejo

x5nder commented 8 months ago

@MarVentura did you ever manage to enable Multi-Sense on your Clio V? Mine also has it disabled.

eldimoni1 commented 8 months ago

@MarVentura ¿Alguna vez lograste habilitar Multi-Sense en tu Clio V? El mío también lo tiene desactivado.

hola si , y al final he activado tambien la camara trasera, era un parametro lo que fallaba movil 723 inalambrico movil 736 movil 737 ozono movil 772 movil 747 logo movil 718 luz trasera dia etc...

DrPleb commented 8 months ago

@MarVentura ¿Alguna vez lograste habilitar Multi-Sense en tu Clio V? El mío también lo tiene desactivado.

hola si , y al final he activado tambien la camara trasera, era un parametro lo que fallaba movil 723 inalambrico movil 736 movil 737 ozono movil 772 movil 747 logo movil 718 luz trasera dia etc...

How did u do that? With which version of ddt4all and ecu db? I think that my OBD is the wrong one, can u suggest me where to buy a good one? I live in Italy, on Amazon there are only the fake chinese ones...

eldimoni1 commented 8 months ago

el mio es chino,y va por bluetooth, un Elm 327 v 1.5 con chip PIC185F25K80 Y con el ddt4all 5.5.0 all cars edition (database 09/07/2019), lo que pasa es que tienes que evitar el SGW,( sistema de seguridad de renault) ya que te bloquea, y no te deja cambiar nada y lo tienes que conectarlo directamente al modulo easylink movil 725 movil 757

DrPleb commented 8 months ago

Yep, at this point is all okay on my side, is like yours...And which firmware version you have on EasyLink? And when u edit the Navigation Ecu, which A.IVI version are you editing? Because Inreally can't understand what I am doing wrong with Android Auto wireless...

eldimoni1 commented 8 months ago

la mia es 773R, esdel 2020, pero hay modelos por lo que he oido no les funciona, no se por que, yo uso carplay ysi me funciona puedes usar A.IVI 1.10 , - A,IVI 1,12 , System Information $DAB1... 1 Haces los cambios... 2 activas la cabeza del einsten.. 3 le das write all, tiene que cambiar a blanco.. 4read all , comprueba que se agrabado en la zona que esta en verde 5 key off/on reset, y supuestamente se reiniciara a la pantalla de fabrica y lo deberias de tener activado Consejo, siempre Antes de hacer algun cambio, hacer una foto a los parametros que salen antes de hacer nada ,por si nos equivocamos