Missing button Add translation

[MajaDolinar]

A button to add new translations to CVs is missing. I wanted to add a Slovenian translation to DDI Contributor Role, but I could not.

I checked through my ADMIN-CONTENT role and ADMIN-TL Slovenian role. There is no way to add a new language (eg. Slovenian) to an already published CV. See pictures:

[pakoselo]

Hi Maja

You can add new languages only when the SL is in state of ready to be translated. So the workflow should be. Create a new SL language (do not forget to finish the DA translation, or forget it) and then after it goes to the status of ready to be translated, you can add new languages. And als the other translations show as drafts too.

Cheers Martin

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:09 AM MajaDolinar @.***> wrote:

A button to add new translations to CVs is missing. I wanted to add a Slovenian translation to DDI Contributor Role, but I could not.

I checked through my ADMIN-CONTENT role and ADMIN-TL Slovenian role. There is no way to add a new language (eg. Slovenian) to an already published CV. See pictures:

image.png (view on web) https://github.com/cessda/cessda.cvs.two/assets/72601736/ab106a03-a667-4d85-a60b-ce3ea8fbe1ca

image.png (view on web) https://github.com/cessda/cessda.cvs.two/assets/72601736/b6173e2d-4da2-4626-b919-0ab0891694a7

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[MajaDolinar]

Hi, so in if you want to add a completely new language you need to create first a new SL version, which means that the versioning is changing to 1.1.0 even though the content of the SL CV has not changed? That does not make sense to me and the workflow does not work like it should. In my understanding it should be able to add new languages (also the ones that do not exist yet) to an existing SL version (and b adding languages, changing only the third digit when published). I do not see the option to do this at this point.

[pakoselo]

Hi Maja

I do not remember why this approach was selected, it's too old change, but there was a reason for that. I am pretty sure, because I was thinking the same as you, there was possibility to do ii that way, but something was wrong with that approach.

Martin

On Thu, Feb 1, 2024, 15:10 MajaDolinar @.***> wrote:

Hi, so in if you want to add a completely new language you need to create first a new SL version, which means that the versioning is changing to 1.1.0 even though the content of the SL CV has not changed? That does not make sense to me and the workflow does not work like it should. In my understanding it should be able to add new languages (also the ones that do not exist yet) to an existing SL version (and b adding languages, changing only the third digit when published). I do not see the option to do this at this point.

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[pakoselo]

Hi Maja

Stefan found this requirement: https://github.com/cessda/cessda.cvs.two/issues/398#issuecomment-1450129000 from Tain. So it means, that the publish vocabulary works as a bundle publishing.

Cheers Martin

On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 3:14 PM Martin Šeleng @.***> wrote:

Hi Maja

I do not remember why this approach was selected, it's too old change, but there was a reason for that. I am pretty sure, because I was thinking the same as you, there was possibility to do ii that way, but something was wrong with that approach.

Martin

On Thu, Feb 1, 2024, 15:10 MajaDolinar @.***> wrote:

Hi, so in if you want to add a completely new language you need to create first a new SL version, which means that the versioning is changing to 1.1.0 even though the content of the SL CV has not changed? That does not make sense to me and the workflow does not work like it should. In my understanding it should be able to add new languages (also the ones that do not exist yet) to an existing SL version (and b adding languages, changing only the third digit when published). I do not see the option to do this at this point.

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[Lorenz1983]

Dear Martin, if the publication vocabulary only works as a bundle publication, does Maja's request become invalid? If so, then I'll take out the ticket. Unless there are future plans to add new languages ​​to an existing SL using an ad button.

Best, Lorenz

[pakoselo]

@Lorenz1983 in my opinion, if the community needs it, it can be there, but if you look at the discussion with Taina (that time Service Owner) 2 years ago, she suggest to publish the vocabularies as a bundles. So I think we can set it as won't fix. But you can ask the user community. Or if it comes from them, we can discuss it further.

[Lorenz1983]

@pakoselo thank you for your feedback. I'll ask the community. If I don't receive any feedback in a timely manner, we can set it as "cannot be fixed/wont fix".

Best, Lorenz

[MajaDolinar]

@Lorenz1983 to explain where this is coming from. We at ADP prepared translations for Slovenian for DDI Contributor Role, Software Package and Type of Frequency and our translator wanted to put the translations in CVS. She was not able to do this, so I started looking into this. There needs to be a clear workflow explanation for users on how to proceed if they would like to add a new translation to existing CV (the translation in this language does not exist yet). Please get in contact with Sergeja Masten (sergeja.masten@fdv.uni-lj.si) and decide on how to include this translations in the CVS baring in mind the rules you select for the versioning (see my comment on Feb1 around the confusion in the versioning number).

[MajaDolinar]

I am quite certain that the DDI CV people would not be happy that the versioning went one number up, since there was no change in the CV itself (second digit increases as Martin mentioned), translations should be only change in the third digit. But this needs to be discussed and decided.

[Lorenz1983]

@MajaDolinar thank you very much for the information. I will get in touch with Sergeja Masten and let her know how the translations can be included in the CSV. I will also discuss the workflow and versioning at the next meeting. I assume that we will find a way to make the process simpler and more coherent.