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Standard names: Ekman current #131

Closed abiardeau closed 6 months ago

abiardeau commented 1 year ago

Hello,

I am Aurore BIARDEAU from Mercator Ocean international. Date 03/04/2023

We plan to add new variables linked to the ekman current in the Copernicus Marine service. The data producer proposes those standard names : ekman_eastward_sea_water_velocity ekman_northward_sea_water_velocity

Following the guidelines, do you suggest another construction for those standard names, such as eastward_sea_water_velocity_due_do_XXX ?

Thanks for your advice,

Aurore BIARDEAU

github-actions[bot] commented 1 year ago

Thank you for your proposal. These terms will be added to the cfeditor (http://cfeditor.ceda.ac.uk/proposals/1) shortly. Your proposal will then be reviewed and commented on by the community and Standard Names moderator.

feggleton commented 1 year ago

Thanks, I have now added this to the cfeditor. There are some names which follow this construction such as baroclinic_eastward_sea_water_velocity and barotropic_eastward_sea_water_velocity and geostrophic_eastward_sea_water_velocity. Have a look at those in the table and see if they fit your terms construction. Or as you say there is due_to terms such as eastward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddies - this is the phrase for due_to: The specification of a physical process by the phrase "dueto" process means that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. I assume the units are ms-1?

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abiardeau commented 1 year ago

Thanks @feggleton for your answer. We are finally going for "eastward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_ekman_drift". Indeed the units are ms-1

JonathanGregory commented 1 year ago

Probably it's what you both mean, but for the avoidance of any doubt, may I clarify that the units are m s-1, with a space, not ms-1, which is reciprocal milliseconds (equivalent to kHz).

feggleton commented 1 year ago

Thanks both. Have added additional phrase now it's a due_to term.

"The specification of a physical process by the phrase "dueto" process means that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase."

Yes m s-1.

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feggleton commented 1 year ago

Thanks all for getting these two terms to a good point. I'm happy now a lot of time has passed since any comment that these can be accepted and added into the next update. Apologies I missed adding the 7 day comment period.

The following have now been accepted in the cfeditor, please comment if you do not agree:

Term: eastward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_ekman_drift Description: A velocity is a vector quantity. "Eastward" indicates a vector component which is positive when directed eastward (negative westward).The specification of a physical process by the phrase "dueto" process means that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. Units: m s-1

Term: northward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_ekman_drift Description: A velocity is a vector quantity. "Northward" indicates a vector component which is positive when directed northward (negative southward). The specification of a physical process by the phrase "dueto" process means that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. Unit: m s-1

marceloandrioni commented 1 year ago

Hello, to keep the same standard as other "velocity" variables, e.g.:

eastward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_tides
northward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_tides
sea_water_speed_due_to_tides
sea_water_velocity_to_direction_due_to_tides

I would like to suggest that variables

sea_water_speed_due_to_ekman_drift
sea_water_velocity_to_direction_due_to_ekman_drift

also be included. Bellow a tentative description:

Term: sea_water_speed_due_to_ekman_drift Description: Speed is the magnitude of velocity. The specification of a physical process by the phrase "dueto" process means that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. Units: m s-1

Term: sea_water_velocity_to_direction_due_to_ekman_drift Description: A velocity is a vector quantity. The phrase "to_direction" is used in the construction X_to_direction and indicates the direction towards which the velocity vector of X is headed. The direction is a bearing in the usual geographical sense, measured positive clockwise from due north. The specification of a physical process by the phrase "dueto" process means that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. Unit: degree

Thank you.

japamment commented 1 year ago

Thanks @abiardeau @feggleton. The first two names proposed in this issue have been agreed and published in V83 of the standard name table: eastward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_ekman_drift northward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_ekman_drift

@marceloandrioni has proposed further ekman standard names: sea_water_speed_due_to_ekman_drift sea_water_velocity_to_direction_due_to_ekman_drift

I agree that these follow established syntax for standard names and I don't see any problem with adding them. I've added them to the CF editor (http://cfeditor.ceda.ac.uk/proposals/1).

I notice that we haven't yet defined "Ekman drift" for use in standard names. I suggest we add the following to the description of all four names in this issue: "Ekman drift" is the movement of a layer of water (the Ekman layer) due to the combination of wind stress at the sea surface and the Coriolis effect. Ekman drift is to the right of the wind direction in the Northern Hemisphere and the left in the Southern Hemisphere. Reference: https://www.open.edu/openlearn/science-maths-technology/the-oceans/content-section-4.3. Does that sound okay?

Best wishes, Alison

efisher008 commented 10 months ago

Dear @marceloandrioni,

The two additional Ekman standard names and their descriptions (including the new text @japamment has suggested) appear to be agreed. Unless there are any further comments in the next 7 days, the text will be added to all four Ekman names and the two new names you proposed will be accepted.

Best wishes, Ellie

marceloandrioni commented 10 months ago

Thanks @efisher008.

efisher008 commented 8 months ago

Dear @marceloandrioni,

The two further names (sea_water_speed_due_to_ekman_drift and sea_water_velocity_to_direction_due_to_ekman_drift) have now been accepted and will be published in the next release of the standard names table - apologies for the wait and thanks again for the proposal.

Best wishes, Ellie

marceloandrioni commented 8 months ago

Great, thank you @efisher008.

abiardeau commented 8 months ago

Thanks a lot @efisher008

efisher008 commented 6 months ago

Closing this issue as these names have been accepted in version 85 of the CF standard names table, published on 21 May 2024 (https://cfconventions.org/Data/cf-standard-names/85/build/cf-standard-name-table.html).