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Standard names: particle optical properties #164

Closed markusfiebig closed 6 months ago

markusfiebig commented 3 years ago

Proposer's name: Markus Fiebig Date: 2021-09-22

markusfiebig commented 2 years ago

Hi,

can these terms be accepted?

All the best, Markus

feggleton commented 2 years ago

Hi @markusfiebig thank you for your proposals. Apologies for the delay but as there are many names to review this may take a bit longer to go through. I'll flag to @japamment so she can add to the cfeditor. Thank you

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feggleton commented 1 year ago

Hi @markusfiebig just wanted to flag that I have not forgotten about these! I have added all 92 (if i recall) terms to a csv to do a bulk upload to the cfeditor so we can get them into the next update but I'm just have some technical issues with the editor and will try to resolve this as soon as possible. Thanks

feggleton commented 1 year ago

Ok these have now been added to the editor.

efisher008 commented 11 months ago

Dear Markus,

I have been through these names in the editor and checked the definitions. For all those with radiative_flux in the name, I have added the following phrase from the editor's phrase bank: "Radiative flux is the sum of shortwave and longwave radiative fluxes." There were also some copying errors when defining particle diameters: Pm1 particles defined as those with an aerodynamic diameter of less than or equal to 2.5 micrometers, for example. I have corrected each of these according to the diameter which was explicitly stated in the name.

There don't appear to be any obvious duplications or other errors. But I did want to ask if there is a meaningful difference between your particle optical properties with _at_standard_temperature_and_pressure and those names without this addition. Would the natural assumption be that by not specifying temperature and pressure, you are describing the property/behaviour at 273.15 K and 1013.25 hPa, or is that not the case?

Thank you again for your patience and I think we are making good progress now with getting these into the next standard names table update!

Best regards, Ellie

efisher008 commented 10 months ago

Dear Markus,

Reflecting on my last message, I can see a use case for specifying _at_standard_temperature_and_pressure versus omitting this from the standard name - it would provide extra clarity about the PT conditions in the absence of well-documented metadata about these parameters, and could then be useful as a quick indicator of the standard conditions measurement value.

Given this, I think the names are in a good position to now be added to the next CF standard names table update, which is scheduled for next week. If there are no further comments or suggestions on this issue in the next 7 days, I will be able to accept these names and hopefully they will then make it into the table in time for the next update! Thanks for your patience.

Best regards (and a happy new year!), Ellie

efisher008 commented 8 months ago

Hi Markus,

I have marked your proposed names as accepted and they will appear in the next release (v85) of the standard names table, planned for mid-May. Please be advised that the following two names were rejected, as a separate proposal from @JonathanGregory (in issue cf-convention/vocabularies#183) amended two existing standard names to this, and duplicate names cannot exist in the table.

  1. volume_absorption_coefficient_of_radiative_flux_in_air_due_to_dried_aerosol_particles

  2. volume_backwards_scattering_coefficient_of_radiative_flux_in_air_due_to_dried_aerosol_particles

Thanks again for your proposal.

Best wishes, Ellie

efisher008 commented 6 months ago

Closing this issue as these names have been accepted in version 85 of the CF standard names table, published on 21 May 2024 (https://cfconventions.org/Data/cf-standard-names/85/build/cf-standard-name-table.html).