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Standard names: Propose new names for fisheries board parameters for use in Impacts & Adaptation team #224

Closed ioloi1128 closed 1 week ago

ioloi1128 commented 2 months ago

As discussed within the fisheries board in Impact and Adaptation team, I would like to propose two new standard names.

Name: turb Title: Turbidity of Coastal Runoff and seawater CF Standard Name: turbidity_of_seawater Units: nephelometric turbidity units (NTU) Description: turbidity of seawater

Name: ppalg Title: Algal Production CF Standard Name: tendency_of_mole_concentration_of_particulate_organic_matter_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water_due_to_algal_production Units: mol m-3 s-1 Description: Algal Production

Thanks for considering this proposal.

Proposer's name: Wan-Ling Tseng Date: 14 September 2024

- Term Proposed term to appear in the vocabulary

- Description A brief description to explain the meaning of the term

- Units (If applicable).

github-actions[bot] commented 2 months ago

Thank you for your proposal. These terms will be added to the cfeditor (http://cfeditor.ceda.ac.uk/proposals/1) shortly. Your proposal will then be reviewed and commented on by the community and Standard Names moderator.

JonathanGregory commented 2 months ago

Dear @ioloi1128

Thanks for your proposals.

The first quantity you request is already in the standard name table as sea_water_turbidity.

For the second one, I wonder what you mean by "production". Is it gross or net primary production? If net, I think this should be tendency_of_mole_concentration_of_particulate_organic_matter_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water_due_to_net_primary_production_by_algae. Would that be correct?

Best wishes

Jonathan

ioloi1128 commented 2 months ago

Dear Jonathan,

Thank your for the conformation.

  1. The turbidity can be removed from my proposal.
  2. Yes, it is production. "net" is also better for our application. Thank you for the correction again.

Best regards Wan-Ling

JonathanGregory @.***> 於 2024年9月17日 週二 上午4:34寫道：

Dear @ioloi1128 https://github.com/ioloi1128

Thanks for your proposals.

The first quantity you request is already in the standard name table as sea_water_turbidity.

For the second one, I wonder what you mean by "production". Is it gross or net primary production? If net, I think this should be tendency_of_mole_concentration_of_particulate_organic_matter_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water_due_to_net_primary_production_by_algae. Would that be correct?

Best wishes

Jonathan

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github-actions[bot] commented 1 month ago

This issue has had no activity in the last 30 days. Accordingly:

Standard name moderators are also reminded to review @feggleton @japamment @efisher008

efisher008 commented 1 month ago

Dear @ioloi1128,

Thank you for your proposal. The name tendency_of_mole_concentration_of_particulate_organic_matter_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water_due_to_net_primary_production_by_algae has been added to the CF editor. The following phrases were suggested to add to the description - would you agree with these being used to describe your proposed name?

_The phrase "tendency_of_X" means derivative of X with respect to time. Particulate means suspended solids of all sizes. Net primary production is the excess of gross primary production (the rate of synthesis of biomass from inorganic precursors) by autotrophs ("producers"), for example, photosynthesis in plants or phytoplankton, over the rate at which the autotrophs themselves respire some of this biomass. In the oceans, carbon production per unit volume is often found at a number of depths at a given horizontal location. That quantity can then be integrated to calculate production per unit area at the location. Standard names for production per unit area use the term "productivity". "Production of carbon" means the production of biomass expressed as the mass of carbon which it contains. The phrase "expressed_as" is used in the construction "A_expressed_as_B", where B is a chemical constituent of A. It means that the quantity indicated by the standard name is calculated solely with respect to the B contained in A, neglecting all other chemical constituents of A. The specification of a physical process by the phrase "dueto" process means that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. "Mole concentration" means number of moles per unit volume, also called "molarity", and is used in the construction "mole_concentration_of_X_in_Y", where X is a material constituent of Y. A chemical species or biological group denoted by X may be described by a single term such as "nitrogen" or a phrase such as "nox_expressed_asnitrogen".

Best regards, Ellie Fisher

ioloi1128 commented 1 month ago

Yes, thank you.

efisher008 commented 1 month ago

Hi @ioloi1128,

The phrases mentioned here have been added to the description of the name tendency_of_mole_concentration_of_particulate_organic_matter_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water_due_to_net_primary_production_by_algae. The entry in the editor can be found here: https://cfeditor.ceda.ac.uk/proposal/5470

Would you like to add anything else to the description of your proposed name? Given the phrases cover the meaning fairly well, I would perhaps suggest removing the original text "algal production" as I am not sure what it adds to the meaning. Please let me know if you would like to revise this.

Best, Ellie

efisher008 commented 2 weeks ago

Hi @ioloi1128,

As there has been no further comment on this issue, I have removed the text "algal production" from the start of the name and started the 7 day period to acceptance. If there are no further questions or changes during this time, the proposed name will be accepted and published in the next version of the standard name table (scheduled for mid-November).

Best wishes, Ellie

efisher008 commented 1 week ago

Dear @ioloi1128,

The 7-day period has passed, and this name has now been accepted in the CF editor. The name tendency_of_mole_concentration_of_particulate_organic_matter_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water_due_to_net_primary_production_by_algae will be published in the next release of the Standard Names table (v87) which is planned for mid-November 2024. Thank you again for your proposal!

Best wishes, Ellie

japamment commented 1 week ago

The name tendency_of_mole_concentration_of_particulate_organic_matter_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water_due_to_net_primary_production_by_algae has been published in V87 of the standard name table and all other discussions in this issue have been resolved, so closing this one now.