Who do we know who could weigh in on social value?

[mbbroberg]

As part of our review of new Focus Areas, our community recognizes we need further expertise to discuss Social Value with the same subject matter expertise as we have on the team for others. To facilitate that effort, we'd like to reach out to our network for support. The exact outcome is open: it could be inviting them to our group meeting, meeting out of these hours, or recording it for a CHAOSScast.

To kick it off, please list those you know and whether you will reach out to them or would like others in Value to do so.

[samanthavenialogan]

Hi Matt,

I would be more than happy to contribute to this actually :)

A few people I would mention include Erika Pearson of Massy uni in New Zealand, Jeff Snodgrass at colorado state university, and David Spinks of CMX. I have all of them on the ist for podcasts as well if you're interested.

Samantha Venia Logan Co-Founder of SociallyConstructed.Online 307-274-5516 | samantha@SociallyConstructed.Online 6715 Autumn Ridge Dr. Unit 2, Fort Collins CO., 80525

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:54 AM Matt Broberg notifications@github.com wrote:

As part of our review of new Focus Areas https://chaoss.community/metrics/, our community recognizes we need further expertise to discuss Social Value with the same subject matter expertise as we have on the team for others. To facilitate that effort, we'd like to reach out to our network for support. The exact outcome is open: it could be inviting them to our group meeting, meeting out of these hours, or recording it for a CHAOSScast https://podcast.chaoss.community/.

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[GeorgLink]

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[mbbroberg]

@samanthavenialogan that sounds lovely :smile: Do you think this would be better as a podcast or a meeting? I'm down for either.

[samanthavenialogan]

I mean why not both?

We can explore the topic on a podcast and then we can use what we discuss to create a more formal meeting and discussion?

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On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:29 PM Matt Broberg notifications@github.com wrote:

@samanthavenialogan https://github.com/samanthavenialogan that sounds lovely 😄 Do you think this would be better as a podcast or a meeting? I'm down for either.

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[mbbroberg]

@samanthavenialogan :+1: let's get one on the books :studio_microphone:

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[samanthavenialogan]

Sounds good :)

I've set up a google doc for it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QOtixNTmqhXYvhzKDFHq1DVhwwI717W0GHKgxa1af9M/edit?usp=sharing

Let's figure out what specific areas of the social value we're looking for, who will be joining us, and go from there? Will this be an after-dark or are we going to go find someone to interview since Georg and I have a few people we can bring?

Samantha Venia Logan Co-Founder of SociallyConstructed.Online 307-274-5516 | samantha@SociallyConstructed.Online 6715 Autumn Ridge Dr. Unit 2, Fort Collins CO., 80525

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 3:23 PM Matt Broberg notifications@github.com wrote:

@samanthavenialogan https://github.com/samanthavenialogan 👍 let's get one on the books 🎙️

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[GeorgLink]

Thanks Matt B and Venia,

Am I understanding the order of events correctly?

1. Record individual interviews as podcast episodes
2. Publish them on CHAOSScast
3. Write metrics from those conversations

[samanthavenialogan]

I think that's the gist yeah :)

We can make a series asking the question - and then we can produce a metric out of the discussion.

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On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 1:41 PM Georg J.P. Link notifications@github.com wrote:

Thanks Matt B and Venia,

Am I understanding the order of events correctly?

1. Record individual interviews as podcast episodes
2. Publish them on CHAOSScast
3. Write metrics from those conversations

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[ElizabethN]

I've been putting feelers out into my network and I'm hearing a common theme: before we can measure something, we need to define it, and this is especially true for something like "social good" or "social value." I think before we can make any metrics we need to decide what we at CHAOSS mean by these terms. I know these conversations have been going on for a while, but did we solidify or explicitly say this anywhere? And do we weigh in or consider how this "social good" is implemented? (i.e, if the project means well, but negatively impacts others, then does that detract from the overall level of social good per our definition?)

I think it's awesome (and necessary!) that we are including others in these conversations, but I just want to make sure before we start writing metrics that everyone understands and agrees upon our shared definition.

[germonprez]

Cool. Thanks for this. I agree... defining the term will be key. Simply for starters

Social value is the quantification of the relative importance that people place on the changes they experience in their lives. http://www.socialvalueuk.org/what-is-social-value/

Measuring Social Value (they never really define it) https://ssir.org/articles/entry/measuring_social_value

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 7:52 AM Elizabeth Barron notifications@github.com wrote:

I've been putting feelers out into my network and I'm hearing a common theme: before we can measure something, we need to define it, and this is especially true for something like "social good" or "social value." I think before we can make any metrics we need to decide what we at CHAOSS mean by these terms. I know these conversations have been going on for a while, but did we solidify or explicitly say this anywhere? And do we weigh in or consider how this "social good" is implemented? (i.e, if the project means well, but negatively impacts others, then does that detract from the overall level of social good per our definition?)

I think it's awesome (and necessary!) that we are including others in these conversations, but I just want to make sure before we start writing metrics that everyone understands and agrees upon our shared definition.

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[samanthavenialogan]

Hey I want to resume this conversation

I think a discussion that defines "social value" sounds like a great CHAOSScast after dark topic that we can make the podcast for? Then we'll go from there? how does this sound?

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On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:28 PM Matt Germonprez notifications@github.com wrote:

Cool. Thanks for this. I agree... defining the term will be key. Simply for starters

Social value is the quantification of the relative importance that people place on the changes they experience in their lives. http://www.socialvalueuk.org/what-is-social-value/

Measuring Social Value (they never really define it) https://ssir.org/articles/entry/measuring_social_value

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 7:52 AM Elizabeth Barron <notifications@github.com

wrote:

I've been putting feelers out into my network and I'm hearing a common theme: before we can measure something, we need to define it, and this is especially true for something like "social good" or "social value." I think before we can make any metrics we need to decide what we at CHAOSS mean by these terms. I know these conversations have been going on for a while, but did we solidify or explicitly say this anywhere? And do we weigh in or consider how this "social good" is implemented? (i.e, if the project means well, but negatively impacts others, then does that detract from the overall level of social good per our definition?)

I think it's awesome (and necessary!) that we are including others in these conversations, but I just want to make sure before we start writing metrics that everyone understands and agrees upon our shared definition.

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[mbbroberg]

@samanthavenialogan that sounds wonderful. Let's start an email with Elizabeth and get it on the calendar either this or next month.

[vinodkahuja]

I am assuming the work on Podcast is done.