Miscellaneous issues with DPPN-SC

chaz23 commented 2 years ago

Thought I would create a space to discuss miscellaneous issues that might pop up with regards to the DPPN-SC. For sizable problems, we can open a separate issue. To start with, some problems I noticed were:

The entry for sundarikā is denoted as a person, i.e <dl class='person'> , it should be <dl class='place'>.
I'm not sure about this, but are the separate entries for id='Revata1' and id='Revata2' actually the same person?
There are two people called "Bhagu", none of them have IDs, so they'd need to be given IDs like Bhagu1 and Bhagu2.

chaz23 commented 2 years ago

In the entry under kāḷī, the mistress should be named "Vedehikā" not "Videhikā".

thesunshade commented 2 years ago

The entry for sundarikā is denoted as a person, i.e <dl class='person'> , it should be <dl class='place'>.

If you read the whole entry, you can see that it is really talking about "Sundarikā Bharadvajja" I agree it is probably not well constructed. This is the reference:

19.1Now at that time the brahmin Sundarika Bhāradvāja was sitting not far from the Buddha.

I'm not sure about this, but are the separate entries for id='Revata1' and id='Revata2' actually the same person?

No, for sure not. One is Khadiravaniya. He is actually the youngest brother of Sariputta, although this has been stripped from the definition because, I guess, that fact is not spelled out in the EBTs.

The other is Kaṅkhārevata. Revata the doubter. Was there something that made you think they were the same person?

In the entry under kāḷī, the mistress should be named "Vedehikā" not "Videhikā".

Interestingly this spelling goes back to the print edition of the DPPN. However neither SC nor the DPR show it as a variation. There seems to be a question if the name is derived from the Videhins. But yes, I agree there should be a consistent spelling.

chaz23 commented 2 years ago

If you read the whole entry, you can see that it is really talking about "Sundarikā Bharadvajja"

Are we talking about the same entry? It starts with "a river in Kosala". There is a separate entry sundarika for the person. I've included both below:

{
    "word": "sundarika",
    "text": "<dl class='person'><dt><dfn>Sundarika</dfn></dt><dt id='Bhāradvāja9'>Bhāradvāja</dt><dd><p>A brahmin, one of the Bhāradvājas. Once, when he was performing Fire-rites on the banks of the Sundarikā, he looked round to see if there were anyone, to whom he could give what was left over from the oblations. He saw the Buddha seated under a tree, his head covered; he approached him with the oblation and a water pitcher and addressed him. The Buddha uncovered his head. The sight of the shaven head at first made Sundarika draw back, but, realizing that some brahmins too were shaved, he questioned the Buddha about his birth. The Buddha explained to him that the important thing was not birth, but the leading of a good life. The brahmin was pleased and offered him the oblation, but the Buddha refused it, saying that he did not accept presents for chanting verses. He advised Sundarika to throw the food into the water, where there were no creatures, for who could digest food which had once been offered to a Buddha? The brahmin followed this advice and saw the water hiss and seethe with steam and smoke. Alarmed and with hair on end, he worshipped the Buddha, who preached to him. <a class='ref' href='https://suttacentral.net/sn7.8/en/sujato#5.1'>SN.i.167<em>f.</em></a> The account of the meeting between the Buddha and Sundarika is given in the Sutta Nipāta too, <a class='ref' href='https://suttacentral.net/snp3.3/en/sujato#4.1'>Snp.p.79<em>f.</em></a> but there the details differ greatly, though the topic of discussion is the same. Several additional verses are attributed to the Buddha regarding the true “sacrifice.</p><p>Sundarika-Bhāradvāja is also mentioned <a class='ref' href='https://suttacentral.net/mn7/en/sujato#17.1'>MN.i.39<em>f.</em></a> as meeting the Buddha on the banks of the Bāhukā and asking him whether he bathed in that river, because it had the reputation of cleansing sins. The Buddha answered that purity was not to be won that way and preached to him the Vatthūpama Sutta.</p></dd></dl>"
},
{
    "word": "sundarikā",
    "text": "<dl class='person'><dt><dfn>Sundarikā</dfn></dt><dd><p>A river in Kosala, reputed to be efficacious in washing away sins. <a class='ref' href='https://suttacentral.net/mn7/en/sujato#17.1'>MN.i.39</a> There Sundarika Bhāradvāja held sacrifices in honour of Agni and met the Buddha during such a sacrifice. <a class='ref' href='https://suttacentral.net/sn7.8/en/sujato#5.1'>SN.i.167</a> <a class='ref' href='https://suttacentral.net/snp3.3/en/sujato#4.1'>Snp.p.79</a></p></dd></dl>"
}

Was there something that made you think they were the same person?

Hmm, maybe I got confused by the fact that they're both named as foremost in some aspect... I think one is foremost amongst forest dwellers and the other among jhanas, correct?

thesunshade commented 2 years ago

There is a separate entry sundarika for the person. I've included both below:

Ah, sorry. I missed that.

I think one is foremost amongst forest dwellers and the other among jhanas, correct?

Yep. They are very often confused, I find. My problem is they both start with the letter K. 🙃

Is there a plan on how these changes are going to be made on the sutta-central repo? The change with the id's as well.

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