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Style Dictionaries for Information Presentations in UTS (UTS Harvard Style reference and in-text citations)
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In-text citations have comma separator between author year #2

Open brentonsmith opened 6 years ago

brentonsmith commented 6 years ago

UTS-Harvard does not use a comma between author and year in the in-text citation.

With natbib this is easily solved with "\setcitestyle{aysep={}}", can it be solved in the .bst file however? Can probably add that macro directly in the preamble witht he bst file somewhere, but that might require a dependency on natbib I guess which im not sure you currently have?

Alternative is a "quick start guide" in the read me which shows that macro + natbib being used.

chewxy commented 6 years ago

That was my solution as well

brentonsmith commented 6 years ago

I've also noticed in-text citations with multiple authors are using "and" rather than "&" to separate authors, i don't how to fix this with setcitestyle or in the bst file.

See http://www.lib.uts.edu.au/help/referencing/harvard-uts-referencing-guide/journal-article#authors

Modifying the bbl.and file seems a bit too excessive and will probably break other things, what do you think?

chewxy commented 6 years ago

Gah... I spent so much time on making and work in in-text citations... (the sheets I got from tutes had "and" instead of "&")

I think it's best to switch out the bbl.and (which is what I eventually settled on)

chewxy commented 6 years ago

Actually, no... there is a bunch of things in {format.names} that uses "\harvardand{}

brentonsmith commented 6 years ago

Yeah, unfortunately there are a few issues here and there on the website and inconsistencies across certain parts or the different guides.

UTS-Library have told me the website (not the PDF) is most up to date and should be considered reference source. But I think EndNote file may even be a better reference source, apparently it handles boutique references better than the .csl file (Zotero, but UTS style was built for Mendeley).

chewxy commented 6 years ago

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chewxy commented 6 years ago

Using & in-text looks weird outside of parens

chewxy commented 6 years ago

"Foo & Barr (1900) said baz`

brentonsmith commented 6 years ago

Oh, I more meant "Baz (Foo & Bar 1900)"

Inline in-text quotes appear to use "and", see http://www.lib.uts.edu.au/help/referencing/harvard-uts-referencing-guide/more-information#in-text