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[PTR Raid report - Mount Hyjal]: Solaris 13th April #9

Closed IskrenPlashkov closed 1 month ago

IskrenPlashkov commented 2 months ago

Mechanics comments on trash mobs

Ghoul:

Crypt fiend:

Abomination:

Shadowy Necromancer:

Banshee

Gargoyle

Frost Wyrm

Giant Infernal

Fel Stalker

Tuning comments on trash mobs

Ghoul - Bit weak but fine. Crypt Fiend - Bit weak but fine. Abomination - 2nd highest threat trash. 5k aoe per tick per mob is quite strong, so they got the be separated quickly. Shadowy Necromancer - By far the most dangerous trash. Shadow bolt dmg is fine but if all focus a healer its a kill. They also very quickly summon more adds. The melee are a joke but casters can also very quickly nuke a healer or ranged dps. Banshee - piss easy Gargoyle - Very annoying to deal with. Take forever to get into range and only ranged can deal with them. Only danger is if they all focus a healer but overall quite weak otherwise. Frost Wyrm - They are ok. Will be bit problematic to deal with for melee heavy comps as they got 1m hp but overall fine. Giant Infernal - They are ok as they are. Fel Stalkers - Bit weak but fine.

Mechanics comments on Rage Winterchill

Frost Armor - nowhere to be seen - BUG Death and Decay - Works Icebolt - Works Frost Nova - Works

Tuning comments on Rage Winterchill

Nova dmg bit Strong. Could be lethal if comboed with D&D but keeps the priests on their toes. Personally I like both. Iceblolt is way too strong and absolutely needs a nerf. The initial dmg is 7.75 to 8k dmg, immediately followed by 3.750 dmg. This causes over 11.5k dmg instantly. Unlike Solarian where 12k dmg is done over 2 seconds, but crutially in TK we have a warning who the target is going to be. Here he just picks a random person who unless randomly shielded or tank just dies.

Mechanics comments on Anetheron

All abilities work fine.

Tuning comments on Anetheron

Infernal is a bit too strong. Immolate aura high dmg prevents melees from dpsing them. AA too strong too - not a problem for tanks but any dps or healers initially taking aggro can easily die. Currently u cant afford to stack too many of them, so ranged are forced to kill them. For melee heavy comps this will be a problem.

Maybe a small overall nerf to their hp and dmg will be good to not cock block more casual guilds.

Mechanics comments on Kaz'rogal

Cripple - works War stomp - works Malevolent cleave - works Mark of Kaz'rogal - Does not target all mana users - BUG When players go oom from debuff they do not explode - BUG

He should also be tauntable from the sources I have seen - BUG

Tuning comments on Kaz'rogal

His AA dmg makes pala tanking possible even with mana drain debuff. Cleave very strong but keeps melee on their goes. His overall hp might be difficult to judge atm as mark doesnt kill people. If ppl actually have to watch out for mana dmg output will be lower and this will work as soft enrage. Will need further testing once mark explosion dmg is fixed.

Mechanics comments on Azgalor

Cleave - works Rain of Fire - works Howl of Azgalor - works Doom - Works

Tuning comments on Azgalor

Doomguards might be a bit too strong. Need to be retested again once rain of fire dmg is nerfed. Rain of fire - This needs a massive nerf. Aoe area is big so lots of players hit every time. First hit is 2.6k followed by 5 ticks of 1875. This causes 12.5k dmg to a big portion of the raid on regular basis, and that is assuming everyone moves away before 2nd tick. Neither healers nor overall hp is strong enough for such numbers right now.

Mechanics comments on Archimonde

Air Burst and Tears of the goddess both work fine Fear - works Grip of the legion - works Doomfire Strike - Targeting random player works, however the fire moves in a very weird pattern (from videos I have seen it should be more staggered - atm its very fluid and catches up to players quickly). Animation seems to fast. Also does no dmg at all - BUG Finger of death triggers very quickly into the fight, insta killing everyone. Not sure what is triggering it at this point, making any testing very difficult. Soul Charge - cant really be tested atm as finger of death kills everyone.

Tuning comments on Archimonde

Fight is very bugged right now. Once finger of death is fixed we will be able to figure out how soul charges work.

Overall comments on raid mechanics

Other than Archimonde most boss mechanics works fine. The big exception is the mark of kazrogal.

Few trash mechanics missing but not too much of an issue there.

Give a rating out of 10 for the state of the mechanics in the raid

7

Overall comments on tuning

Trash is actually interesting to deal with. Shadowy Necromancers are a bit strong right now, need coordinated focusing and CC. Abominations are quite strong also, but nothing even the more casual raids cant deal with. Flying adds in horde camp are annoying but that is how they always were.

Boss hp might be changed here and there. Not much point in having first 4 bosses having the same hp but not a deal breaker either. All bosses basic attacks do good dmg and we dont feel they need changing.

Give a rating out of 10 for the state of the tuning in the raid

8

amed80 commented 2 months ago

Crypt fiend: Web - does not work - BUG

After watching multiple videos and looking at multiple logs , i do believe this spell is a myth even when guides are mentioning it. there is only one video where it was used which make me guess the video was from either pserver or maybe PTR version? because everything else even solo runs they never used this spell.

Shadowy Necromancer: Summon Skeletons - Currently summon both melee and ranged add at the same time. I believe it is supposed to be one or the other. Possible bug.

this is not a bug , Necro have 3 difference summoning spells , one that summon 2 mages , one that summon 2 melees and one that summon 1 mage and 1 melee , he will cast one of them randomly. the only problem with them that they feel like they are on passive mode and don't aggro straight away.

Mechanics comments on Rage Winterchill Frost Armor - nowhere to be seen - BUG

Are you sure about this one ? he uses it every 30-45sec and might get delayed sometime if he is casting D&D the spell exist in every test i have done so far (mostly solo)

Mechanics comments on Kaz'rogal Mark of Kaz'rogal - Does not target whole raid - BUG

the Mark only target enemies that have mana , so rogue and warrior or shapeshifted druid (cat/bear) do not get the mark.

This was the most boss i am looking for raids to test in PTR as he have 13.4M health and have "enrage" timer of 210sec (3:30). Which imo is impossible even for top tier raids , specially that there is the Mark to slow caster dps and Cripple that lower melee dps. Hope if there is more tests after some fixes that happened to his Mark.

IskrenPlashkov commented 2 months ago

Crypt fiend: Web - does not work - BUG

This is by no means a hill Im willing to die on. If staff decides its not a bug by all means lets go without it.

Shadowy Necromancer: Summon Skeletons - Currently summon both melee and ranged add at the same time. I believe it is supposed to be one or the other. Possible bug.

I was unaware of that distinction in summoning, did not find it in the sources I checked.

Mechanics comments on Rage Winterchill Frost Armor - nowhere to be seen - BUG

We never saw it in proper raid setting nor when I was solo testing shortly after to verify our findings. If it was popping for you, did u try dispelling it ?

Mechanics comments on Kaz'rogal Mark of Kaz'rogal - Does not target whole raid - BUG

Perhaps I should have phrased it better. There were mana users not being targeted by the mark on regular basis.

We knew proximity to world tree is an issue so we made sure to keep him far away from it. That being said, if for whatever reason his or the tree's hitbox are larger he could have theoretically "reach" it and trigger the finger off death. Will need to test this further.

amed80 commented 2 months ago

Mechanics comments on Rage Winterchill Frost Armor - nowhere to be seen - BUG

We never saw it in proper raid setting nor when I was solo testing shortly after to verify our findings. If it was popping for you, did u try dispelling it ?

I guess something got broken while being in a raid? from my solo testing it , you can't steal the Frost Armor or remove it with Purge from Rage Winterchill but you can dispel the debuff from the players , Hand of Freedom can keep you free from getting the debuff for the whole time Rage Winterchill have Frost Armor on (10sec) , those the only things that i have tested with it.

Mechanics comments on Kaz'rogal Mark of Kaz'rogal - Does not target whole raid - BUG Perhaps I should have phrased it better. There were mana users not being targeted by the mark on regular basis.

do you have shadow resistance on ? (priest buff or pala aura) Mark of Kaz'rogal can be resisted , even if you get the debuff there is also a chance you may resist the explosion as both work as separate spells (explosion should be working now if you gonna test it in the future again) If this was not the case can you check next time which class was not getting the mark ? and spec if possible ?

If Archimonde is casting the single target spell that kills people (around 20k damage) then yes that's Finger of Death which currently is casted when ever there is no one in melee range. This spell probably need like a delay before he check for a player in melee range before being casted if he's spamming it too often

For the World Tree check , i think this probably the range currently exist for it image

As long he doesn't get closer to that circle he shouldn't use Hand of Death which target EVERYONE in the raid at the same time and he gonna be spamming it until everyone is dead.

amed80 commented 2 months ago

this is for Frost Armor , you can see at the end using Cleanse to dispel it.

https://github.com/chromiecraft/PTR-review/assets/8395873/a521495b-7977-4811-9ead-bbd8d04d84d9