cirruslabs / orchard

Orchestrator for running Tart Virtual Machines on a cluster of Apple Silicon devices
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Option to allow ssh access to VMs without Orchard account #186

Closed eecsmap closed 1 month ago

eecsmap commented 1 month ago

First I would like to thank you for the implementation of ssh jumpbox!

I manage to setup and make it work. But not quite exactly as expected.

When I tried to substitute this new feature for the jumpbox I homemade, I realized that it requires orchard account with compute:write access. It made me start thinking my use case more.

I created orchard account to CM team to manage the services (allow jenkins server to create agents dynamically, allow dashboard to gather telemetry, etc). But I hesitate to give orchard account to users who just need to login the VM instances to debug their programs.

Before I have the homemade jumpbox, whenever a user come to me asking a way to login the VM, I will:

Then after I build and deploy the jumpbox, user just do:

In this way, normal user can focus on their own work without knowing anything about orchard. They don't need to install orchard. I don't need to leak any access to orchard service management. The only thing they need is just the ssh tool from their system, and the address:port of the jumpbox.

I guess some kind of access control to the jumpbox is still valuable in some cases. But it is definitely helpful if it could be opt out.

Will it be okay to add an option to turn off the orchard account check and let the jumpbox run as anonymous service?

fkorotkov commented 1 month ago

I think it's reasonable opt-in feature especially given that VM ids can be random and that you might use a non standard password for the VMs.

edigaryev commented 1 month ago

Will it be okay to add an option to turn off the orchard account check and let the jumpbox run as anonymous service?

Please check out the new 0.21.0 release, it adds the --insecure-ssh-no-client-auth command-line argument to orchard controller run which enables this behavior.

eecsmap commented 1 month ago

Verified, it works as expected! Thanks!