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CSL- United Nations Development Programme ICCA Legal Review #4541

Closed rgm111 closed 4 years ago

rgm111 commented 4 years ago

Hi,

I am not a coder at all and tried to follow the guide but I have unfortunately been quite unsuccessful.

Can you make or apply this changes to the existing Style Manager Australian Government (note:

__chapter in a book, the year should come after the Author's name, and the quotes to the title should be removed__****

Suggested Referencing Style.docx Anyone able to help? I have attached the requirements in the word document.

Thank you!

adam3smith commented 4 years ago

Sorry, you'd have to explain this a bit more -- what is this for? The style guide we use for the Australian Government style does prescribe quote around the title. We don't have an ICAA version of that style-- that seems to be something you're trying to build?

rgm111 commented 4 years ago

Hi Sebastian,

I am trying to format a citation style that has been prescribed for an academic piece I am writing. The closes citation style I have found that matches the requirements is the Australian Government one. And I was advised by Mendeley that I should put in a query on this.

I have attached the referencing style I am supposed to be adhering to in the Microsoft Word document. What would you advise given these specifications? Should I just create a new csl? And how to I go about that?

Thanks for your help?.

Ruth

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Sorry, you'd have to explain this a bit more -- what is this for? The style guide we use for the Australian Government style does prescribe quote around the title. We don't have an ICAA version of that style-- that seems to be something you're trying to build?

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POBrien333 commented 4 years ago

@rgm111 I assume you answered to this issue via the email function. Unfortunately that will not include attachements. Please come directly to https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/issues/4541 via your browser, log in and reply here.

rgm111 commented 4 years ago

Hi there, I was just referring to the attachment I sent in the first post. Suggested Referencing Style.docx

adam3smith commented 4 years ago

Yes, the link works, thanks. The procedure for requesting styles is described here: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/wiki/Requesting-Styles I don't know why the folks at Mendeley (still) aren't aware of those steps, sorry for the trouble, but please follow those. (You can provide the information in German, too, if you prefer; everyone interacting with the style request is fluent in German)

POBrien333 commented 4 years ago

Ah, hadn't seen that, sorry. Provide the details via adam3smith's link here and then we can have a look.

rgm111 commented 4 years ago

Hi there, As this is a first time publication, the only guidelines available are the word doc I attached so I am unable to answer question 1 and 2 of the guidelines you sent. The publication requires using footnotes. [After first use, author’s name and date in footnote].

Here is an example:

In-text citation (footnotes): 1 2

Campbell, J. L., & Pedersen, O. K. 2007. The varieties of capitalism and hybrid success. Comparative Political Studies, Vol 40(3), pp. 307-332. https://doi.org/10.1177/0010414006286542

Mares, I. 2001. Firms and the welfare state: When, why, and how does social policy matter to employers? In Hall, P.A. & Soskice, D. (Eds.), Varieties of capitalism. The institutional foundations of comparative advantage, Oxford University Press, New York, pp. 184-213.

Bibliography: Campbell, J. L., & Pedersen, O. K. (2007). The varieties of capitalism and hybrid success. Comparative Political Studies, 40(3), 307–332. https://doi.org/10.1177/0010414006286542

Mares, I. 2001. Firms and the welfare state: When, why, and how does social policy matter to employers? In Hall, P.A. & Soskice, D. (Eds.), Varieties of capitalism. The institutional foundations of comparative advantage, Oxford University Press, New York, pp. 184-213.

Can this be done at all?

Thanks so much for your time!

adam3smith commented 4 years ago

This is obviously possible, but footnote styles are a fair amount of work, so we'd want to understand what this is for more specifically (to see, quite frankly, if it's a good use of the time of POBrien or whoever else would code this). Is this for a journal, a house style for an organization, for a book manuscript, something else?

rgm111 commented 4 years ago

Hi there, It is a house style for a publication for the United Nations (UNDP) which will be available online. I would understand if it is too much work. Just let me know if it is possible. Failing which, I will just have to manually edit the citations. Thanks heaps.

POBrien333 commented 4 years ago

As you'll be aware from the requesting guidelines we would want as much information about this as possible starting with a name. "House style for UNDP" is not the most exact thing. We do have a few styles relating to the UN, so something along those lines would be good. See here: https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=united

(Could you also change the name of this issue? This has nothing to do with Australia)

rgm111 commented 4 years ago

Hi there, I've changed the issue and renamed it to "United Nations Development Programme ICCA Legal Review". Would that work? Thank you very much.

POBrien333 commented 4 years ago

@rgm111 I have created a draft style for this. You can download it in the PR and test it out. It's only adapted for article-journal, book and chapter. I also didn't check if the subsequent/ibid works correctly.

POBrien333 commented 4 years ago

@rgm111 Did you get a chance to test the style?

rgm111 commented 4 years ago

Hi there, Yes I did, it seems to work fine except when it is a report or journal an extra, 'No.' appears in the citation. For example:

Jonas, H., Makagon, J.E., Booker, S. & Shrumm, H. 2012. An Analysis of International Law, National Legislation, Judgements, and Institutions as they Interrelate with Territories and Areas Conserved by Indigenous Peoples and Local Communities (Report No.1: International Law and Jurisprudence. No. September, Bangalore. Vaz, J. 2012. An Analysis of International Law, National Legislation, Judgements, and Institutions as they Interrelate with Territories and Areas Conserved by Indigenous Peoples and Local Communities (Report No. 15 Malaysia). No. September, Bangalore.

But I can edit this out if it is too difficult a problem to correct. It works fine for the book citations.

POBrien333 commented 4 years ago

The example they give for a journal article includes "No." for the issue number: Aardvark, A. 2012. Limitations in legislation related to ICCAs in Tanganistan. Journal of the ICCA Consortium, Vol. 1 No. 3, pp. 33-36.

I can't reproduce that though for reports. Example: Ahlquist, J.S. & Breunig, C. 2009. Country clustering in comparative political economy. MPIfG Discussion Paper, 09–5, Max-Planck Institute for the Study of Societies, Cologne.

In which field do you have this "Report No. 15 Malaysia" entered btw?

rgm111 commented 4 years ago

One was entered under Journal and the other under Report because I know you said the CSL was only for book, chapter and journal. But it's fine, I will edit those anomalies out, and work with the existing CSL. Thank you so so much!

POBrien333 commented 4 years ago

It is not a bother for me to edit the citation style. After all, once it is published on the repository others will use it and they might just rely on the fact it is correct and not check and not know "they should delete something manual". I want it to be correct. So let's figure out where this extra "No." is coming from. Can you answer my question from above? And can you export both of those items as CSL Json and attach them here? Right click, export, select CSL Json and save it. Attach the file.

rgm111 commented 4 years ago

I checked and it appears only when the document is a Report. When it is a Journal the "No" does not show up and it works perfectly.

I previously entered the Report No. 15 in the title together with the main title, but after I edited this and put in the Report No. 15 in the "Publication Field" it works great:

Vaz, J. 2012. An Analysis of International Law, National Legislation, Judgements, and Institutions as they Interrelate with Territories and Areas Conserved by Indigenous Peoples and Local Communities. Report No. 15 Malaysia, Bangalore, Pune and Delhi.

So it all works well now and no correction is needed. Thank you very much.

POBrien333 commented 4 years ago

There you go. That's why I asked. ;)

rmzelle commented 4 years ago

It is a house style for a publication for the United Nations (UNDP) which will be available online.

@rgm111, does this publication already have a webpage somewhere? We'd like to add @POBrien333's CSL style to our online repository, but I'd like to confirm the title of the publication and some other things like its ISSNs (if it's a periodical).

P.S. I googled "United Nations Development Programme ICCA Legal Review" and I couldn't find anything that matched.

rgm111 commented 4 years ago

Hi, no, there isn't a webpage as it is the first publication in this series for a global research project.

rmzelle commented 4 years ago

@rgm111, sorry for the wait.

We'd like to add @POBrien333's style to our repository, but I'd really like to be able to confirm the name of this series, and ideally the ISSN(s) as well if this is a periodical. We could just wait until a webpage appears. Or perhaps you have some documentation or communication you could share with us that clearly mentions the series title, or perhaps you could give us the contact details of an editor at this upcoming series? (you can email us privately via https://citationstyles.org/contact/#/contact-form)