Update all CSIRO Publishing journal styles and add missing journals please

[emmap-csiropub]

Hi team

I am the Journals Production Coordinator at CSIRO Publishing. I was advised to raise an issue here to try and update our journal styles in your libraries. I can see a number of our journals have existing styles - but many are outdated and a number of our journals are missing. We recently rationalised our styles so many of our journals actually use the same style now.

I attach here a spreadsheet detailing all our journals, their details and reference type (there are 5 different styles in total across 28 journals). I also attach a Word file with fuller examples of all 5 styles if this is useful. CSIRO-P-ref-styles-2024.xlsx CSIRO Publishing reference examples.docx

Please let me know if there is anything more I need to do - I did try to look at the editor to see if I could do this myself, but it is beyond my technical skills I'm afraid. Appreciate your support on this

Cheers Emma

[POBrien333]

Thanks for putting this here. It basically helps us track when and what was done about these styles. That's why we asked you to put this here. I will take a look at this in the coming weeks.

[POBrien333]

I just had a look through this. This looks like you are actually requesting 4 custom citation styles to be made which is a lot of work.

[emmap-csiropub]

Hi, if we can get the two 'house' styles done that would be brilliant as this covers the majority of our journals. The changes to the existing IJWF style look to be fairly minimal to me, so I was imagining that the existing style could just be edited. Sorry if this is not the case. If someone could change the parent style I could try and replicate to sort out all the others. Happy to do whatever I can to help.

[POBrien333]

Ah, that will make it easier. Can you also let me know if there is other styles already available for the other 2 styles?

Regarding the IJWF style, the guidelines on the website do not match the Excel file you sent. Which of the two style guides is authoritative?

[emmap-csiropub]

Please use the spreadsheet - although the only difference I can see is that I used long form DOIs in the spreadsheet and we have short form on the website (if there is something else please let me know). Note that we are currently overhauling all our author instructions web pages and they should all be up to date by year end.

Where I could find existing styles I marked them on the spreadsheet.

The Harvard fully punctuated style can be based on IJWF but it just has more full stops (everything else, in terms of structure of references is the same)

The 'Other Vancouver' has an existing style that appears close but not quite right

The 'Other Harvard' has no existing style and might be too complicated because it uses numbered footnotes, that lead to a short Harvard citation, with a version of Harvard in the reference list [happy to leave this one for now]

If it is useful for me to note the changes from the existing styles to what we need, I can do that?

[POBrien333]

Thanks for explaining. I've adapted the IJWF style. Test it out. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/citation-style-language/styles/889f834cad7768fb2837ebcde5a07d909a4ea65e/international-journal-of-wildland-fire.csl

[emmap-csiropub]

Sorry - showing my ignorance here, I don't actually know how to test! I compared the code against the original and it looks like you have made the necessary changes

[POBrien333]

Two options:

1. Open Zotero and click on that link. It should recognise it to install.
2. Right click, save as..., download and install.

[emmap-csiropub]

Thanks very much, have successfully tested and have some feedback. Not sure if these changes are possible but would be great to correct if we can. Journal: no change Web page: no change Thesis: no change Book: Full point missing at end of book title (before closing quote mark). If DOI available can it display at the end of the reference? Chapter in book: Missing a space before 'In' Preprint: after Preprint title. display: Repository, Archive ID. DOI/URL Report: Can the order/display be tweaked to show: Author (Date) Report title. Report number. Institution, Place. URL/DOI Dataset: If a DOI or URL is present can this be displayed after the title? Standard: after Standard title. display: Standard number. Publisher. URL (if provided) Software: after Software title. display: Version. Company/publisher, Place. URL/DOI (if provided)

[POBrien333]

You did not give any examples for these new item types, so without concrete examples (i.e. real) I will not be able to work on this. It will just duplicate the work for me. https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/raw/88870b42e3e35e470ca5dfa9cab2c0e19e6cf1c6/international-journal-of-wildland-fire.csl

[emmap-csiropub]

Examples of all the above are listed in the Word doc uploaded with the Excel at the start of the thread. I can see the edited book missing space has been fixed in the most recent file - thanks. Whole book is still missing a full point at the end of the title.

[POBrien333]

https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/raw/ebc2d548736ea37bdc75cdb2b0b3b2f3e92635e8/international-journal-of-wildland-fire.csl

[emmap-csiropub]

Thanks so much. I'm away for a few days but will check this as a priority next Wednesday when I am back in the office. Much appreciated