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Non-YouTube embedded player #66

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 8 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Allow TubePress to use a non-standard embedded Flash player. The JW FLV
Media Player seems to be a good candidate:
http://www.longtailvideo.com/players/jw-flv-player/

WordTube already uses it: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wordtube/

Original issue reported on code.google.com by eho...@gmail.com on 8 Jan 2009 at 4:53

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Eric

I am glad you will consider the option for a Non-YouTube embedded player

Update you with some info you might want to know

The player suggested has been arou8nd for ages, but recently they have 
rebranded as
longtail and seem to be focussed on commerical side of things.

The licence to use the player now states that anyone has to pay a 30 fee if 
they have
any ads on their website, this includes even basid adsense ads.

Personally I have no problem, because I do not plan any ads, and was part of my
problem with google making youtube ads auto play on partners ads and giving us 
no choice.

The negative side of this google actions (I suspect plans that will roll out 
further
on their players) means that if you did not want ads, then you  would have to 
manualy
choose ads and also constantly check that the vid has not changed into a 
partners
type. In short we could not use the general tags feature or any api auto mode 
grab of
tubepress (brilliant features so it is a shame) 

problem?
But maybe many people will have a problem, they will want to have adsense ads of
their choice, but can not afford or do not want to afford the fee for the 
player.

I think there must be options of other players, I will look around and let you 
know,
but thought you need to know this info as I had linked to the player.

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 9 Jan 2009 at 12:07

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 20 Feb 2009 at 11:16

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
If you grab a copy from subversion, you can start to mess around with this. 
It's VERY
rough around the edges still, but the basic functionality is there.

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 23 Feb 2009 at 8:58

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Thanks Eric.

Got the nightly zip and activated, but I can not see where to activate the flv 
player.

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 4:22

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Sorry about that. I've been having some trouble getting the nightly to build 
every
night (defeats the purpose of a nightly, right?).

Anyway, try again if you'd like. I just rebuilt the nightly.

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 6:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Thanks Eric.

I have not got svn, I am just downloanding the nightly zip. I have just 
downloaded
this and activated, but I still can not see where to activate the flv player. 
Is it a
option or going to be standard?

Apology if I am missing the way to activate.

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 1:27

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Eric ignore last.

Got a later one with flv option. 
Feedback
Works as should, excellent work. I think that it is much better than the 
youtube one.
I see that you have it working on the first level. the pop up if chosen still 
shows a
youtube player. While the lightwindow, greybox and shadowbox (my personal 
choice and
desire for flv use the) my end shows a error

greybox
Fatal error: Call to undefined method
org_tubepress_player_impl_GreyBoxPlayer::getEmbeddedPlayerService() 
player/impl/GreyBoxPlayer.class.php on line 62 

lightwindow
Fatal error: Call to undefined method
org_tubepress_player_impl_LightWindowPlayer::getEmbeddedPlayerService() in
player/impl/LightWindowPlayer.class.php on line 82

shadowbox
Fatal error: Call to undefined method
org_tubepress_player_impl_ShadowBoxPlayer::getEmbeddedPlayerService() in 
player/impl/ShadowBoxPlayer.class.php on line 86 

Anything you want me to specially test please let me know.

Thanks

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 11:52

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Yeah, still working out the kinks for the popup window and greybox/shadowbox, 
etc.

One thing I've noticed is that the video is a bit more grainy than in the 
regular
YouTube player. Do you have any idea why? Maybe there's just a setting I'm 
missing.

And presumably the YouTube watermark is non-removable?

Feel free to grab nightly builds over the next couple days as I develop..

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 26 Feb 2009 at 2:50

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Not sure about the watermark Eric. probably not and probably good that they are
responsible for the video at the end of the day.

Not noticed the quality difference, I will check a few.

Do you want me to give a wishlist for the tubepress with flv feature. To be 
clear I
do not expect anything at all, I am like many very appreciative of the work as 
it
stands now. 

The player is skinnable, maybe we choose one of the sleeker skins as standard 
for
instance. Whilst at present I do not have a clue how to include them as code, 
you may
do and see it as reasonable benefit.

I will look at the flv players options and think on performance and quality.

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 26 Feb 2009 at 4:44

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Sure I'd be happy to hear a "wish list." The more features we can pack in, the 
better.

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 2 Mar 2009 at 2:49

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Eric

Sorry for the absence and lack of feedback. Had major server problems to deal 
with.

As far as wishlist

Most important I would like the flv player to work with the lightbox greybox 
etc.

A nice skin would be good
Maybe one of the most popular calls on longtail itself
http://www.longtailvideo.com/addons/skins/21/Nacht
neat and clean.

That is it really, if we can get that working it will bring tubepress to another
level and even more unique

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 16 Mar 2009 at 11:40

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
I've already implemented the FLV player to work with ShadowBox and all the 
other 
players (including some new ones). Still working out some bugs with 
LightWindow, but 
the others work great.

As for skins, I'm probably going to just include a guide for TubePress users to 
changing their skins by editing the right files and downloading whatever skins 
they 
want for themselves. The overhead for managing all the optional skins is more 
than I 
think TubePress should take on. But  it looks like skinning with FLV Media 
Player is 
pretty easy, so I don't think there's a problem.

If you're able, grab a copy of TubePress from subversion to test. The nightly 
builds 
aren't getting built every night, for some reason, so until I fix that, 
subversion 
is the way to go. I'm going to mark this ticket as "Fixed," but feel free to 
continue the discussion here.

You can see all the changes in version 1.8.0 here: http://code.google.com/p/
tubepress/wiki/VersionHistory

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 18 Mar 2009 at 8:54

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
I've already implemented the FLV player to work with ShadowBox and all the 
other 
players (including some new ones). Still working out some bugs with 
LightWindow, but 
the others work great.

As for skins, I'm probably going to just include a guide for TubePress users to 
changing their skins by editing the right files and downloading whatever skins 
they 
want for themselves. The overhead for managing all the optional skins is more 
than I 
think TubePress should take on. But  it looks like skinning with FLV Media 
Player is 
pretty easy, so I don't think there's a problem.

If you're able, grab a copy of TubePress from subversion to test. The nightly 
builds 
aren't getting built every night, for some reason, so until I fix that, 
subversion 
is the way to go. I'm going to mark this ticket as "Fixed," but feel free to 
continue the discussion here.

You can see all the changes in version 1.8.0 here: http://code.google.com/p/
tubepress/wiki/VersionHistory

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 18 Mar 2009 at 8:54

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
I understand all that and agree. The skins I thought would prove to be more 
problem
than value.

Eric is there a chance to get a copy of the nightly build updated, I do not have
subversion or really know what it is or how to use it. If it is at my guess 
some type
of a server based retriver! then I have problems now because I am looking for a 
new
server and will not buy (can not afford) until last minute.

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 19 Mar 2009 at 12:35

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
I may have it now on svn
I downloaded a program called tortoise

but when i try and fetch http://tubepress.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ 
tubepress-read-only

it is asking for a user and password?

What do I enter here please Eric

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 19 Mar 2009 at 1:24

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
I just rebuilt the nightly, so you can just grab that if you like.

Not really sure why you're getting a user/password for that URL. It should be
anonymous. You could probably just leave those fields blank. Detailed 
instructions
for checking TubePress out with subversion can be found a 
tubepress.org/documentation
in section 2.2.

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 19 Mar 2009 at 10:40

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Also, I haven't tested much of the new code in Internet Explorer, so your 
mileage may
vary :)

Firefox works great for mostly everything, though.

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 19 Mar 2009 at 10:41

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Eric

I have sorted the SVN issues and able to get the SVN.

I can not get the tubepress to work at all with this copy.

It will load up the thumbs, but they do nothing when you try and click. Even 
setting
the player back to youtube, makes no difference.

I thought it was me, it may still be, but I have really tried.

I have even loaded a brand new wordpress on brand new database and same 
problems persist.

I imgaine it is a javascript issue

Any pointers

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 1 Apr 2009 at 1:46

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Yeah, it's all javascript. This version uses a lot of new javascript and I'm
struggling to get it all to play nice with IE and Firefox. Very close. Sorry 
about
the trouble. Should have a good amount of time this weekend to get it stable 
again.
Stay tuned...

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 3 Apr 2009 at 7:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Eric that is great news.

Do I download from SVN again?

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 5 Apr 2009 at 5:14

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Finally got most things working on IE and Firefox. Please update from svn now 
and 
see how it works for you. Shadowbox should work without a hitch.

Let me know your results..

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 13 Apr 2009 at 3:52

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Looking good Eric.

I am going to download a brand new SVN now and make sure that the problems I 
see are
not because of some old files.

Firefox works good, but IE the js box frame loads but the youtube movie does 
not show
inside?

Let you know

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 15 Apr 2009 at 11:39

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Awesome. Thanks for helping me test this version. It's 97% ready for release, 
but I
want to work out any lingering IE bugs.

If it still doesn't work in IE, let me know which version of IE and which 
operating
system you're running.

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 16 Apr 2009 at 12:16

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Got up to date new and Yes the problems are there Eric.

Using Vista and IE 7.

1 other question, how can I change the shadowbox to fit the adjusted player 
size from
control, it does not seem to auto adjust as it did before.

Has the greybox (think it was called, I can check if you want) option gone? I 
thought
that was the best, but I am happy with the options now as well.

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 16 Apr 2009 at 7:51

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
I've tested it here with IE7 and 8, but on XP. I'll try to get a copy of Vista 
so I
can try to reproduce. What is the problem exactly that you're experiencing? 
Better
yet, do you have a public link that you could share?

Shadowbox should adjust to fit the exact size of the player. Is it showing up 
too
large or small for you?

Thanks again for helping to work out these lingering bugs..

Original comment by eho...@gmail.com on 18 Apr 2009 at 1:11

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Unfortunately not Eric, the site is not live yet.

With IE the shadowbox works but the frame is blank, the player or movie does 
not show
up inside.

The auto adjust does not seem to be working on my end, in firefox or IE. 
 I know it did, but not this version. This version frame seems to be stuck at one size.

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 25 Apr 2009 at 2:25

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
I think all works.
Checked with explorer 8 and also good.

I suggest that we do not update to the latest longtail player, they have started
putting an annoying logo overlay on the left hand side.

I do not suppose we have to update and there are other options anyway.

How can we add a skin?

Thank you Eric

Original comment by chesneyh...@gmail.com on 14 May 2009 at 2:00