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Management Project for coordinating the Climate Service co-creation process of the CLARTIY CSIS. High-level tasks (issues) are defined in this repository and then broken down into concrete implementable issues in different sub repositories.
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Integration of EEA's Urban Adaptation Map Viewer #60

Closed p-a-s-c-a-l closed 4 years ago

p-a-s-c-a-l commented 5 years ago

We should integrate maps and data from EEA's Urban Adaptation Map Viewer into the CSIS.

We could show some of their Urban-Adaptation-datasets on our maps and embed the city profiles as external application via iFrame.

I don't expect that this will save us some work regarding local effects data processing and impact calculation, but it will enhance the CSIS with a lot of useful information, especially the city profiles:

grafik

WDYT?

But we need a formal / service level agreement to use their data and APIs (WMS, WFS, etc.). Denis?

p-a-s-c-a-l commented 5 years ago

According to their copyright notice we should be allowed to use the data:

Information, documents and material available on this website and for which the EEA holds the rights of use are public and may be re-used without prior permission, free of charge, for commercial or non-commercial purposes, provided that the EEA is always acknowledged as the original source of the material and that the original meaning or message of the content is not distorted. https://www.eea.europa.eu/legal/copyright

maesbri commented 5 years ago

I had a look at the links. These are mainly WMS services (so, no access to the underlying data).

In the case of the Urban-Adaptation-datasets, for instance, "Projected trends in drought frequency (RCP 8.5; 2071-2100; months/30-year period)" (http://climate.discomap.eea.europa.eu/arcgis/rest/services/UAMV/ProjectedDroughtFrequency2071_2100/MapServer) you end up here: https://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/indicators/river-flow-drought-2/assessment but the dowloadable data are only some high resolution european maps (in tif and gif format, not geographically referenced) so probably not very useful for integrating in our map component

DenoBeno commented 5 years ago

They must have somethign else in addition to WMS. E.g., where is this data coming from?

grafik

or this:

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Or this:

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This data could indeed be useful in screening (IMO), e.g. one could use it to indicate if some hazard (projected number of heatwaves, percentage of UMZ potentially exposed to river flooding) or if some exposure (percentage of lone pensioner households, Percentage of people 75 years old or older)

DenoBeno commented 5 years ago

Ah, look what i found:

https://climate-adapt.eea.europa.eu/knowledge/tools/urban-adaptation/Urban-Adaptation-datasets

By following the link to "people 75 y or older", I get this page

http://climate.discomap.eea.europa.eu/arcgis/rest/services/UAMV/Percentage_People_75_Or_Older/MapServer

Service Description: Data on number of people 75 years old or older was obtained from Eurostat (Population on 1 January by age groups and sex - cities and greater cities (urb_cpop1; http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=urb_cpop1&lang=en)) and joined to the Urban Audit 2011-2014 cities' centroids (https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/gisco/geodata/reference-data/administrative-units-statistical-units/urban-audit#ua11-14) .

http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=urb_cpop1&lang=en is a table

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/gisco/geodata/reference-data/administrative-units-statistical-units/urban-audit#ua11-14 has several data field for download:

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p-a-s-c-a-l commented 5 years ago

@alecapolupo @humerh @RobAndGo Is this something that might be useful as data source for the screening model?

RobAndGo commented 5 years ago

Yes, this data source could be useful. As I understand it, for the explicit calculations of risk and impact using the vulnerability curves proposed by PLINIVS, the population are no longer split into the three age groups (is this correct @alecapolupo?). However, being able to overlay different age groups on the maps would provide the user a qualitative assessment where they could see where e.g. older people live and compare it to where the hazards are highest.

ghost commented 5 years ago

I'm agree with Robert. Even if the population is not longer split in three groups for computing risk and impact, overlay different age groups on the maps could give additional qualitative information to the users.

DenoBeno commented 5 years ago

I would like to see some of this in CSIS, but I suppose that it's a low priority at the moment.

Good news: I'm about to finalize the "templating for studies" - this will allow us to define new study types that can be used to show different applicaitons (e.g. this one) on some steps. Also to test with new applications without breaking the standard study types.

p-a-s-c-a-l commented 4 years ago

I've integrated EEA's Urban Adaptation Viewer into the "Implementation of Adaptation Plans" Step Template. It should be available e.g. here as soon as the "External" Tab is implemented.

patrickkaleta commented 4 years ago

External tab is now implemented but taking screenshots is not working. The console log currently shows (IMO) these 2 main reasons/errors:

This part of the code was (AFAIK) added by @therter, so maybe you know how to get this fixed?

therter commented 4 years ago

This part of the code was (AFAIK) added by @therter, so maybe you know how to get this fixed?

I will have a look on this

DenoBeno commented 4 years ago

I've integrated EEA's Urban Adaptation Viewer into the "Implementation of Adaptation Plans" Step Template. It should be available e.g. here as soon as the "External" Tab is implemented.

I took a look at the EEA fact sheet and decided that this needs its own step. The result is shown below:

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EEA factsheets is indeed a new entry in the EU-GL taxonomy now.

grafik

I'll change the template too. We don't have anything to show in "implementation", so we don't need an implementation template at the moment.

p-a-s-c-a-l commented 4 years ago

I will have a look on this

what's the status @therter ?

p-a-s-c-a-l commented 4 years ago

I took a look at the EEA fact sheet and decided that this needs its own step.

@DenoBeno But it's not an "official" EU-GL step, so it's conceptually inconsistent with our whole approach. The EU-GL model has to be reflected in the UI design that guides the users. Furthermore, now you have empty / useless "Introduction", "Data" and "Summary" sub steps. That's rather confusing for the users. And what, if we want to add more external apps? Create a new top-level step for each of them? I don't think that's the way to go. I would revert this and put it into an EU-GL step where it fits best. That was the initial idea of external apps. Enhance the steps but not artificially invent new ones. Maybe put it in vulnerability or directly under Study??

Andrea4ad commented 4 years ago

I agree on @p-a-s-c-a-l in that respect - external apps should be contribute to an EU-GL step and not flaw method, they are additional instruments for decisioning. Anywhere, I consider it were possible to create sort of list for useful apps with a short description and recommendation for use? Maybe their benefit lies beyond the EU-GL workflow, e.g. some maintenance plans for green infrastructure.

p-a-s-c-a-l commented 4 years ago

Anywhere, I consider it were possible to create sort of list for useful apps with a short description and recommendation for use?

Yes, we could create them as showcase or solution offer.

Andrea4ad commented 4 years ago

I don´t think they are a solution offer, more "operational resources"; need to think about, maybe this funcionality is better embedded in the marketplace.

Andrea4ad commented 4 years ago

@fgeyer16, any opinions on that?

DenoBeno commented 4 years ago

In my opinion, EU GL is a good abstract model but we should not try to fit things in it that obviously don't fit. And this application has parts that fit into several categories.

In any case, this is a minor question that can be easily resolved by modifying the template. The most difficult part is to decide where to put it, technical work needed is trivial.

On a related note: most, but not all of the sub-steps are now configurable by templates and can be omitted or replaced by a different application. The only exceptions are introduction, summary and data tab.

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patrickkaleta commented 4 years ago

I took a look at the EEA fact sheet and decided that this needs its own step.

@DenoBeno But it's not an "official" EU-GL step ... The EU-GL model has to be reflected in the UI design that guides the users...

I would argue that the EU-GL model is still clearly reflected and we're only further enhancing it. So to me, doing something like that seems ok in general, if we have good reasons for that. But you're right, we have to be careful here. If we allow to omit steps or interchange steps and now also to add completely arbitrary steps, it will become very difficult for us to create useful user guides and comparing studies won't be an option, since they will have less and less in common.

In any case, this is a minor question that can be easily resolved by modifying the template. The most difficult part is to decide where to put it, technical work needed is trivial.

@DenoBeno: I agree. From a technical standpoint this is not an issue. So maybe after we get some user feedback, we can have a bigger discussion about how much deviation from the original EU-GL model should be made possible in our CSIS.

Also, I agree with your comments about the summary, data and introduction sub-steps, but ATM I would give this a low-medium priority.

p-a-s-c-a-l commented 4 years ago

EEA's Urban Adaptation Map Viewer integrated. Report Generation to be fixed.

Andrea4ad commented 4 years ago
  • summary should not be changed IMO.
  • for data step, it would IMO be better if we could choose different applications in the template. E.g , the "table" in adaptation options step could be moved to data
  • for the introduction step, maybe we should consider putting (part of) the text in the text field within the gl step node. This would have two advantages:
    1. we could have different text for each study if needed.
    2. we could even let the users edit this text, thus changing the section introduction in the report.

@DenoBeno: I think this is a good idea. On the one hand studies get individual and relevant for the project/case they deal with, on the other hand studies remain comparable.

@patrickkaleta: you have a point with comparability of studies also in terms of recommendation services.

Btw. IMHO these are items for the development roadmap. The whole application needs to become stable and handed over to "real" endusers, then we can propose new features ...

p-a-s-c-a-l commented 4 years ago

I've integrated EEA's Urban Adaptation Viewer into the "Implementation of Adaptation Plans" Step Template. It should be available e.g. here as soon as the "External" Tab is implemented.

@patrickkaleta Could you please restore this working behaviour: External Tab with EEA iFrame in IAO step, remove separate step "EEA City Factsheet" that has nothing to do with EU-GL.

grafik

The "EEA City Factsheet" tab is broken: https://csis.myclimateservice.eu/study/35/step/1525/view/external Moreover, the "introduction", "Data" and "Summary" tabs don't provide any added value.

I would like to revert to something lean and simple that actually did work (external tab in IAO) instead of putting even more effort into a broken feature that IMO just introduced incoherence and unnecessary complexity.

patrickkaleta commented 4 years ago

@patrickkaleta Could you please restore this working behaviour: External Tab with EEA iFrame in IAO step, remove separate step "EEA City Factsheet" that has nothing to do with EU-GL.

I will do that next week.

patrickkaleta commented 4 years ago

I removed the EEA step from all Study type templates and instead placed the EEA iFrame in the "External tab" of the IAO step.

Since already existing Studies are not affected by updates of the corresponding Study templates, I went over all published Studies and removed the EEA step manually. However, I have not yet added the EEA iFrame into the "External tab" of the IAO step, since that iFrame is currently still not working (showing same "Page not found" error as in screenshot above). Once the iFrame is working again, I will add the "External tab" to our existing Studies as well. (To check the error, I already added the iFrame into Study 35).

@p-a-s-c-a-l according to this comment, the EEA integration was completed on October, 30th. That's also the day the iFrame was last edited in the CSIS, so I'm guessing the reason for this error might be due to some changes on EEA's side?

p-a-s-c-a-l commented 4 years ago

@p-a-s-c-a-l according to this comment, the EEA integration was completed on October, 30th. That's also the day the iFrame was last edited in the CSIS, so I'm guessing the reason for this error might be due to some changes on EEA's side?

As far as I can see, the URL at EEA side did not change. Probably a problem with our proxy configuration. @therter will have a look at this.

therter commented 4 years ago

The iFrame should now work

p-a-s-c-a-l commented 4 years ago

The iFrame should now work

What caused the problem? Can you please explain the configuration here?