The Maul - Arena NPCs

[scotty0100]

The Dire Maul Arena doesn't seem to ever have any NPCs in it. There should be random NPCs bosses in the Maul.

As per this comment in WoW Head: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=11497/the-razza#comments:id=1130961

It seems that this Dire Maul Arena was in effect until Cata. So this fix probably will need to be applied to TBC/WoTLK.

Source: http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Maul

[Phatcat]

The 'bosses' in question are: The Razza (http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/The_Razza?oldid=343986 , https://web.archive.org/web/20060720203755/http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=11497) Skarr the Unbreakable (http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Skarr_the_Unbreakable?oldid=343982 , https://web.archive.org/web/20060720203807/http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=11498), and Mushgog(http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Mushgog?oldid=343988 , https://web.archive.org/web/20060613220124/http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=11447)

The Maul is actually the only realistic place to obtain Orb of Deception (http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Orb_of_Deception?oldid=289634 , https://web.archive.org/web/20060621054145/http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=1973)

This is because the rare 'Bosses' all have exceptionally high drop chances for this particular item, compared to any other drop source.

The spawn should be random, and it should happen every 6 hours, and is supposed to be accompanied with a yell by Griniblix the Spectator (http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Griniblix_the_Spectator?oldid=1685744 - sorry, oldest version around, yet the newest version of the wiki states he was added in 1.3 - also, he should accompany any rare spawn arena fight, not just the select 2 mentioned in the cached wiki) which anyone in DM should hear, kind of like the yell in the stv arena when the box appears for everyone in stv to hear. http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Dire_Maul?oldid=325520 (Under Layout, in context of arena rare mob spawn: "Every six hours")

The question is, though, since you posted this issue at the db and not the core crew; does Razza, Skarr, Mushgog and Griniblix actually exist in the database? Well, let's have a look in creature_template; The Razza: Yes, Entry ID: 11497 Skarr the Unbreakable: Yes, Entry ID: 11498 Mushgog: Yes, Entry ID: 11447 Griniblix the Spectator: Yes, Entry ID: 14395

Furthermore, it would also seem that they all have spells, according to their newest wiki entries. Let's check if their AI's are set for these spells as well, just to make sure: The Razza: Yes. Entry IDs 11497xx Skarr the Unbreakable: Yes. Entry ID 11498xx Mushgog: Yes. Entry IDs 11447xx

And now, for what I find interesting as a trinket collecter; are their loot tables correct, as in, are the drop chances for Orb Of Deception correct? The Razza: Nay. No Loot table. Skarr the Unbreakable: Nay, no loot table. Mushgog: Nay, no loot table.

If this is a DB issue, it only extends to the fact that they don't have their correct loot tables, making orb of deception unreasonably hard to obtain, unless you count the dude who only appears doing the aq gates event.. Qiraji... I'm not gonna spell his entire name, look at the link: (http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Qiraji_Brigadier_General_Pax-lish). The loot is all allakhazam cached thankfully.

Fixing the loot tables won't make them appear, though. This is a core issue, even more so by the fact that their spawn is handled as an event, as it very much is an event. I will try to look into it.

[cala]

Thank you for all this details about this periodic event. I think it requires SD2 to be properly handled. The DB updates you mentionned are perfectly valid, though.

[Phatcat]

Expanding on this, looking at the ridulously low kill rate for Mushgog (which is even cached more than half a year later) compared to Razza or Skarr would indicate that both Razza and Skarr spawn 10 times more frequent than Mushgog, making Mushgog perhaps one of the rarest mobs in the whole game.

[Phatcat]