Closed steveharoz closed 6 years ago
Thanks for spelling out these categories. I’ll have to ponder this some more. I think it would be best to have at most 3 different categories in the final book.
In any case, my first priority over the next few weeks is to write drafts of the remaining chapters. Once I have those, I can look over all figures and see what categories make the most sense. It probably isn’t useful to add a category that would be used only once or twice in the entire book.
@steveharoz I've thought this over and attempted to visualize my thinking with an example. Would be interested to hear your perspective.
I think there are broadly three distinct aspects to a visualization: (i) the math; (ii) human perception; (iii) aesthetics/design. If something with the math is wrong, the plot is simply incorrect. That's your point 1. Your points 2 and 3 (and maybe 4) are related to perception. Even if the math is correct, humans may have difficult seeing the plot correctly. Finally, a plot may simply have poorly chosen design, even if the information is clearly presented. This leads me to three categories, "wrong", "bad", and "ugly". The boundary between "bad" and "ugly" is somewhat fluid, and in borderline cases it may be better to go with "ugly" than with "bad" to express that there's an element of personal choice.
I've made a figure that tries to explain these three categories by showing different variants of the same figure:
I'm not entirely sure I like the "bad" case here. Now that I type it, maybe a better example would be one where each bar has its own y axis with a different axis range.
Alternative version where Part (c) has different y-axis scales.
Looks good! The alternative seems more clear to me.
I agree that the "bad" category is a bit fluid. But it's fine to have catchall where careful attention is required to overcome low discriminability, to avoid missing something, or to avoid drawing the wrong conclusion.
Since the "bad" category will inevitably have a lot of borderline cases, maybe "caution" is a better term? If you're not careful, you may misinterpret differences/similarities, miss important information, or just be slow at simple tasks. Also "caution" allows for case where a visualization works well or performs poorly depending on its use. (pardon the self citation for that last point - http://steveharoz.com/research/attention/papers/Haroz_Whitney_2012_InfoVis.pdf)
I like the idea of "caution" but not the word. I think the words need to be all adjectives (or alternatively, all nouns). I could use "deceiving" but it doesn't have the same punch as "bad".
hazardous unreliable sketchy risky
Thanks!
"ugly", "sketchy", "bad" seems a good progression.
@mikeloukides, any comments?
Sorry--I've been buying a new car. (Nothing exciting.)
Anyway--I agree with the principle of having 3 categories. Anything more will be confusing. That's (part of) why 3 shows up as a "magic number" in a lot of stories.
"Sketchy" doesn't sound like the right word... is that intermediate between "ugly" and "sketchy"?
With my background in documentation, I'd stay away from words like "caution" and "warning." They actually have fairly precisely defined semantics for at least some people in our audience. Probably only a small minority, frankly, but it's there. ("Warning" means there's a possibility of damage to health or life; "caution" means there's a possibility of damage to equipment or data.) "Hazardous" probably takes you into the same area.
You could "deceptive" rather than "deceiving"; though I agree that still has less punch than "bad." But your intent is to indicate that the visualization is misleading, "deceptive" is very clear and descriptive.
Mike Loukides VP, Content Strategy O'Reilly Media, Inc.
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Thanks!
"ugly", "sketchy", "bad" seems a good progression.
@mikeloukides https://github.com/mikeloukides, any comments?
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Mike, thanks for your input. I think "deceptive" is too precise, because some of the figures that would fit into this bin are confusing or unclear rather than deceptive (e.g., a figure with too many different colors, or with colors that are hard to distinguish by colorblind people). I guess we're back at "ugly", "bad", "wrong". These words are less specific, so I have more room to define them appropriately.
That's fine with me.
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Mike, thanks for your input. I think "deceptive" is too precise, because some of the figures that would fit into this bin are confusing or unclear rather than deceptive (e.g., a figure with too many different colors, or with colors that are hard to distinguish by colorblind people). I guess we're back at "ugly", "bad", "wrong". These words are less specific, so I have more room to define them appropriately.
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What was the problem with sketchy
? bad
seems inappropriately judgmental.
Sketchy can mean a lot of different things, especially in this context. Drawn badly (like a sketch), possibly dishonest (which is what you're going for), not trustworthy (which is a similar idea, but we're talking about the presentation of the data, not the data itself--and trustworthy, at least to me, seems to refer to the data).
Of course, 'bad' can also mean a lot of things.
But I also don't have a huge problem with being judgemental.
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What was the problem with sketchy? bad seems inappropriately judgmental.
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I'm closing this issue. It is addressed in the latest build available online.
@steveharoz, if you have comments on specific figures please open separate issues.
(continuing a discussion from twitter)
While I like that visualizations are labeled as bad or ugly, it'd be informative to make those designations more consistent and clear.
Here are possible categories:
You'll probably want to combine some of those categories for simplicity.
What's tough is that a lot of these depend on which information a person wants. Stacked bars are imprecise for individual comparison, but do well for comparing the total size of the stack to another stack.