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Postvocalic aspiration in Urarina #141

Open MuffinLinwist opened 4 months ago

MuffinLinwist commented 4 months ago

Converting the northernperu dataset into CLDF, I run into some CLTS sound class errors. Urarina faces processes of postvocalic aspiration in between syllables since the language does not accept consonants on coda position (Olawsky 2006, pp. 40-1). The solution adopted so far is to transcribe it in the ortho-profile as:

Grapheme IPA
!aʰ/a
!iʰ/i
!uʰ/u

This strategy deletes the information. The grammar mentions that this phenomenon is optional (pp. 41). It appears, however, often throughout the dataset.

On the other hand, tanscribing it as iʰtʃ i ʰtʃ does not quite reflect the insertion of /h/ after vowels. Below, I copy some of the CLTS errors I get:

ID LANGUAGE CONCEPT FORM SEGMENTS
Urarina-102_near-1 Urarina 102_near iʰtʃũṹ i <<ʰ>> tʃ u ∼ !ṹ/u ∼
Urarina-106_nose-1 Urarina 106_nose aʰs̪í a <<ʰ>> s !í/I
Urarina-112_toplay-1 Urarina 112_toplay n̪ẽʰkuat̪ihján̪ãã n e ∼ <<ʰ>> k u a t i h j !á/a n a ∼ a ∼

@LinguList or @xrotwang, how can we better represent this aspiration?

LinguList commented 4 months ago

Is there a problem in representing aspiration on vowels as "breathy"?

LinguList commented 4 months ago

Check here. This is allowed, just not the superscript h.

FredericBlum commented 1 week ago

@MuffinLinwist Have you adopted this solution for Urarina? Would be nice to have this solved for the NP-release. You can then just close this issue