Introduce 'large room' mode for video rooms with >50 participants

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Midspace (formerly Clowdr) is a completely open-source virtual conference platform. Host complex events with hundreds of authors and presenters. Midspace includes automated livestreams, video chat, text chat, randomised networking and much more.

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Introduce 'large room' mode for video rooms with >50 participants #165

Open rossng opened 3 years ago

rossng commented 3 years ago

Vonage limits us to subscribers * publishers <= 3000. With 50 room participants, it's viable for rooms to work in an uncontrolled mode.

Above this limit, we run into the significant risk that people will not be able to publish or subscribe to new audio streams.

To resolve this, I propose a new 'large room' mode for rooms. It probably needs some of the following functionality:

Only certain people can enable their camera and microphone. Everyone else is just subscribing.
People can ask to be allowed to turn on their camera and microphone. The user interface tells the organisers if they need to disable someone else first.
We mint people subscription-only tokens by default. They get upgraded to publishers once granted permission to publish audio/video.
A different UI that separates publishers from subscribers.

bcpierce00 commented 3 years ago

The UXishness of this could easily get overwhelming, especially as there is a superficially similar split between organizers and participants in the backstage area. Could the two sets of concepts / UIs somehow by unified or at least synchronized?

EdNutting commented 3 years ago

This looks like a "Workshop/Tutorial" room mode that would enable us to stop resorting to Zoom for this use case.
From a UX standpoint, I agree this is basically the same as the livestream scenario: a bunch of watchers and the option to somehow promote them into presenting.
This feels like a halfway house between ordinary video chat and full livestream. We already have a request (somewhere) to be able to record breakout rooms on the fly (which basically means promoting an ordinary video chat into a livestreamed one on the fly, even if the stream itself isn't viewed by anyone, it would enable us to record)

rossng commented 3 years ago

It's annoying, isn't it. The split is basically:

Small(ish) group room (WebRTC) - everyone participates live
Workshop(?) room (WebRTC) - everyone views live, but only some participate at any given time
Streaming (HLS) - most people view with 20s delay, significant barrier to participants becoming 'active'

And the split between the last two is only a result of the technical implementation. But very very hard to work around without building our own video pipeline from scratch and using something like Millicast to broadcast it.

bcpierce00 commented 3 years ago

Let's do that... next year.