[Group Request] Cloud Native Engineering Midtown

abebars commented 2 weeks ago

City or location name for your CNCG

Cloud Native Engineering Midtown

What country do you want to start your community group in?

United States

Tell us about yourself. List your name, email, company, GitHub URL, LinkedIn URL, and CNCF Slack workspace name (or if you need to be invited), and a required profile link on community.cncf.io

Ahmed Bebars, The New York Times, Staff Software Engineer, ahmed.bebars@cloudnativecommunity.io, abebars

Tell us about your co-organizer. List their name, email, company, GitHub URL, LinkedIn URL, and CNCF Slack workspace name (or if they need to be invited), and a required profile link on community.cncf.io

Valentina Rodriguez Sosa, Red Hat, Principal Technical Marketing Manager, varodrig@redhat.com, Valentina Rodriguez Sosa

Tell us about your co-organizer. List their name, email, company, GitHub URL, LinkedIn URL, and CNCF Slack workspace name (or if they need to be invited), and a required profile link on community.cncf.io

David Grizzanti, The New York Times, Principal Engineer, david.grizzanti@nytimes.com

If you already run a meetup, please link it here

No response

What is your mission statement or objective for this new chapter?

Our mission is to empower and unite developers, operators, and technology enthusiasts through the exploration and understanding of promising new technologies within the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF) ecosystem. We are dedicated to fostering collaboration and bridging gaps between theory and practice. Our aim is to create a vibrant community where members can share insights, experiences, and best practices on how these technologies are being leveraged to drive innovation and solve real-world problems. By promoting an environment of learning and sharing, Cloud Native NYC strives to be at the forefront of technological advancement and a beacon for those navigating the evolving landscape of cloud native solutions.

Code of Conduct

[X] I/We agree to follow the CNCF Code of Conduct

Where organizers reside

[X] I/We confirm I/we am/are local to or live near the city of the above-proposed chapter.

Organizers companies/affiliations

[X] I/We agree if there is more than one organizer now or onboarded in the future, the majority come from different companies

Inclusive

[X] I/We agree. To assure this, I/we have recently completed the Inclusive Open Source Community Orientation (LFC102) course

Vendor Neutral

[X] I/We have read what vendor-nuetrality means, and agree that the main content of our meetups will remain vendor-nuetral

Agree to use CNCG branding

[X] I/We agree to use the CNCG logo in my/our chapter and social branding

Registration through CNCF platforms

[X] I/We agree to host free registration in the main CNCF platform

Remain an active chapter

[X] I/We agree to have a meetup at least once every 90 days, or else communicate reasoning for upcoming inactivity.

Collaboration with other chapters

[X] I/We acknowledge the CNCF right to approve additional chapters in my area based on this criteria

Aim to have a diverse representation of speakers in your meetups

[X] I/We will do our best to host diverse speakers throughout the year

k8tgreenley commented 2 weeks ago

@abebars can you please provide the cadence of your meetup, i.e. will it be monthly, quarterly, etc.? What day of the week will it be held? Typically, where will it be hosted (same location or different locations)?

k8tgreenley commented 2 weeks ago

Is there a specific audience you are trying to reach?

abebars commented 2 weeks ago

@abebars can you please provide the cadence of your meetup, i.e. will it be monthly, quarterly, etc.? What day of the week will it be held? Typically, where will it be hosted (same location or different locations)?

We are aiming for monthly but that may change based on availability and speakers.

Location is NYTimes Building at first but we are open to other available locations

abebars commented 2 weeks ago

Is there a specific audience you are trying to reach?

Target is mainly Engineering community between entry level and well experienced industry professionals.

k8tgreenley commented 2 weeks ago

@abebars What are the days of the week you are planning to host this?

k8tgreenley commented 2 weeks ago

Can you please clarify how this new group will differ from the https://community.cncf.io/new-york-kubernetes-meetup/?

abebars commented 2 weeks ago

@abebars What are the days of the week you are planning to host this?

There is no specific day to host the events yet, but we are going to target consistent days if possible.

abebars commented 2 weeks ago

Can you please clarify how this new group will differ from the https://community.cncf.io/new-york-kubernetes-meetup/?

@k8tgreenley One of the main goals for the group is to focus on a few areas related to platform engineering based on CNCF tooling and also find a consistent way to meet and plan to host events both in-person and virtually to expand the reach.

abebars commented 2 weeks ago

@k8tgreenley, can you also please help me understand the timeline for getting the group created? I am working with a few speakers on hosting the first event soon, and I just want to make sure we have enough lead time to plan and amplify the event.

k8tgreenley commented 2 weeks ago

Please explain why you cannot collaborate within the existing New York chapter?

You have noted that you had ideas for the meetup that differed from the current one. What are the ideas or formats that will be different from the current chapter?

abebars commented 2 weeks ago

Please explain why you cannot collaborate within the existing New York chapter?

You have noted that you had ideas for the meetup that differed from the current one. What are the ideas or formats that will be different from the current chapter?

My earlier attempts to collaborate with the organizers didn't go as expected. There are different cadence , ideas and medium that I didn't align with current group on. (I believe I expressed that earlier a few times) let me know if that's is going to be issue of having multiple community groups for a city like New York. I thought having more groups would expand the reach given that the audience are significantly larger to the current offering and operation we have.

k8tgreenley commented 2 weeks ago

@abebars, I need additional clarification and details about how your meetup group will differ and how the collaboration didn't go as expected.

Currently, this request seems to be a duplicate effort of the Kubernetes New York group with similar missions, similar audiences, and locations both in midtown.

abebars commented 2 weeks ago

@abebars, I need additional clarification and details about how your meetup group will differ and how the collaboration didn't go as expected.

Currently, this request seems to be a duplicate effort of the Kubernetes New York group, which has similar missions, audiences, and locations in midtown.

@k8tgreenley The New Group is Targeting both in-person and Virtual Events. The main core topic will be Platform Engineering in the CNCF Landscape. As of now, the target plan is as follows:

In-Person Monthly or Bi-Monthly Event on Thursdays at The New York Times (Or Other applicable venues).
Virtual Panels to discuss Trends in Platform Engineering and CNCF Tooling (Date not set yet).

The dates and topics of the New Chapter will be discussed to avoid conflict with the current chapter.

More Context: I reached out to the current group a few times, and the latest conversation led to a conflict of interest mainly around the group's purpose and being territorial about what other people would be able to contribute to the community; at the current point, I prefer to help anyone in the community and all CNCF Groups, including K8s NYC, without being directly involved in organizing events with the K8s NYC.

Please let me know if there is any other information is requested.

karenhchu commented 3 hours ago

We do not object to a second group and just ask that such proposals are transparent.

The name originally proposed had the potential to cause confusion. We are happy to see it has been updated to "Cloud Native Engineering Midtown" which better aligns to the more specific, local, geographies agreed upon for new groups or sub-groups.

We wish Ahmed and the “Cloud Native Engineering Midtown” group good luck in expanding the options available to the NYC Cloud Native community.

This comment was drafted collaboratively by the NYCK8s organizers - @karenhchu, @arieljatib, @scottrigby, and @TonyMarfil.

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