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Add "About" Page And Other User Guidance #16

Open tnblank77 opened 11 years ago

tnblank77 commented 11 years ago

I do not think the site is very intuitive for someone who is not so familiar with the beginnings and overall process of beer 366.

Some of the following improvements could help:

1) Add an "about" page which describes the project and its history.

2) Add/update the UI for beer rating so that people having a general idea of what the scale is (i.e. "1" means its so bad you literally had a hard time finishing it, "2" means it was drinkable but you wouldn't want another anytime soon).

3) Add/update the UI for adding brews and breweries so that we have consistent additions.

starryknight64 commented 11 years ago

I think it'd be awesome if the various beer families/types even had descriptions.

+1 for beer rating descriptions

starryknight64 commented 10 years ago

I've started working on bullet point 2, and have thought to make the descriptions into simple, one-word descriptions with explanations on an FAQ page. Here are my one-word descriptions: 0: Revolting 1: Yuck! 2: Meh... 3: Average 4: Great 5: Excellent

And so far, for the detailed descriptions: 0: ??? 1: "It was so bad I had a hard time finishing it." 2: "It was drinkable but I don't want another anytime soon." 3: ??? 4: ??? 5: ???

starryknight64 commented 10 years ago

For bullet point 1, if someone could write up a paragraph or two about the project and its history, I'd gladly make an About page.

@tnblank77 What do you mean by "consistent additions" in bullet point 3?

tnblank77 commented 10 years ago

Suggest something like "Heavenly" for a one word description for a 5. "Great" and "Excellent" are pretty similar in my crazy mind.

My take on the remaining full description: 0) Vomit in a glass 3) It's beer. I wouldn't blink grabbing another out of the fridge, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to buy more. 4) I wouldn't talk it up but I would buy it again. 5) I'd step over my own mother for this beer. Consistently heavenly from first sip to finish.

What I mean by consistent entry is just the methodology people are using to add a new beer. I think it may be good to recommend a method so we are all on the same page. For example I tell people to look it up on beer advocate for most of the data.

I may write out some history sometime soon to get that rolling.

run4b33r commented 10 years ago

Why do we need these descriptions? It's subjective, let's keep it that way.

I don't like any of Tyler's. Sorry.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:48 PM, tnblank77 notifications@github.comwrote:

Suggest something like "Heavenly" for a one word description for a 5. "Great" and "Excellent" are pretty similar in my crazy mind.

My take on the remaining full description: 0) Vomit in a glass 3) It's beer. I wouldn't blink grabbing another out of the fridge, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to buy more. 4) I wouldn't talk it up but I would buy it again. 5) I'd step over my own mother for this beer. Consistently heavenly from first sip to finish.

What I mean by consistent entry is just the methodology people are using to add a new beer. I think it may be good to recommend a method so we are all on the same page. For example I tell people to look it up on beer advocate for most of the data.

I may write out some history sometime soon to get that rolling.

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starryknight64 commented 10 years ago

I suppose we don't have to have descriptions. I figured most people would at least want to know that 5 is better than a 1.

run4b33r commented 10 years ago

I think we can accomplish that without talking about vomit on the website :)

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Phillip notifications@github.com wrote:

I suppose we don't have to have descriptions. I figured most people would at least want to know that 5 is better than a 1.

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starryknight64 commented 10 years ago

I agree! While I do agree with @tnblank77's sentiment that a 0-rated beer is terrible, vomit is the last thing I want to think about when drinking a beer. What do you think it should be, instead?

run4b33r commented 10 years ago

Maybe something just describing the low and high of the scale:

"We use a scale from 0 to 5 where 0 is the worst thing you've ever poured down your esophagus and 5 is downright heavenly."

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Phillip notifications@github.com wrote:

I agree! While I do agree with @tnblank77 https://github.com/tnblank77's sentiment that a 0-rated beer is terrible, vomit is the last thing I want to think about when drinking a beer. What do you think it should be, instead?

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starryknight64 commented 10 years ago

How about something plain and simple:

Ratings are from 0 to 5: 0 being terrible and 5 being heavenly.

tnblank77 commented 10 years ago

I agree that it's subjective, my concern is with helping newcomers on where to place a beer, so someone doesn't sully the worth of an average rating by giving beers 4s or 5s that they just sort of enjoyed.

These are the sorts of scale and rating system that Carl and I had always proliferated to new members.

tnblank77 commented 10 years ago

Even beer advocate has a chart on helping people rate:

http://beeradvocate.com/help/index?topic=ratings

starryknight64 commented 10 years ago

My initial thought was to include the rating description with the rating as you were selecting one. Try changing the rating here: http://beer366.dyndns.org/Beer366/drinkLog/create

tnblank77 commented 10 years ago

I like that. Maybe full descriptions aren't so necessary.

I sort of like how BA has the one word description for the value and then a recommendation scale. For me this would be like:

0: Revolting - Pour it out 1: Gross - Avoid 2: Meh - Caution 3: Average - Try it 4: Great - Grab one 5: Heavenly - Must have

Don't forget to handle the inbetweens (I.e. 3.5). I wonder if we could say "Average-Great", "Between average and great", "Greavearage", or "On the footsteps of Greatness".

starryknight64 commented 10 years ago

I also like how they have a recommendation scale that maps to their rating scale. Perhaps 2-3 should be "try it"?

Personally, in-between ratings are where I personally can fine-tune my rating to exactly how I feel the beer should be rated. Trying to place a name to that rating would be difficult, as there are 99 possible ratings in-between each integer rating. I feel that our rating system should be as simply-put as we can make it since most of our users will likely not be sober as they're rating it anyway. :)

run4b33r commented 10 years ago

New scale = like.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Phillip notifications@github.com wrote:

I also like how they have a recommendation scale that maps to their rating scale. Perhaps 2-3 should be "try it"?

Personally, in-between ratings are where I personally can fine-tune my rating to exactly how I feel the beer should be rated. Trying to place a name to that rating would be difficult, as there are 99 possible ratings in-between each integer rating. I feel that our rating system should be as simply-put as we can make it since most of our users will likely not be sober as they're rating it anyway. :)

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starryknight64 commented 10 years ago

Since the scope of this issue has changed to primarily ratings and their descriptions, I've busted out the About page portion in #25.