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Legacy YouTube #333

Closed ccrowles closed 1 year ago

ccrowles commented 4 years ago

↓ SUMMARY ↓ issuecomment-721599493 (ImprovedTube edit)

As stated, legacy youtube option does not revert to legacy youtube design, and when I tried to export settings configuration to upload here, the export button does nothing.

Browser: Vivaldi 3.1.1929.34 (Stable) (64-bit) ImprovedTube version: 3.0-alpha7 System: Kubuntu 20.04

Felina-Lain commented 4 years ago

Legacy doesn't work here either

Browser: Chrome Version 83.0.4103.106 (Official Build) (64-bit) ImprovedTube Beta: 3.0-alpha7 System: Windows 7

Sion89 commented 4 years ago

Legacy doesn't work.

Browser: Opera 68.0.3618.165 (Stable) (64-bit) ImprovedTube: 3.0-alpha7 System: Windows 10

EvgenKo423 commented 4 years ago

Because Legacy YouTube doesn't work at all! It's not an extension issue, it's YouTube itself.

I was always using an old YouTube design from the very beginning. They planned to remove it in March this year, but it still existed until recently. At June, 16 at about 20:00 UTC it started ignoring this option flag. At June, 17 at about 11:00 UTC it was old again. At June, 17 18:00 UTC and still it ignoring it again.

Sion89 commented 4 years ago

You can see an old YouTube design there - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiM5GYL_ePasSpyyWZEBdOg/videos?disable_polymer=1 https://www.youtube.com/user/zubok1000/videos?disable_polymer=1

Just add "?disable_polymer=1"

raszpl commented 4 years ago

spoofing UA to Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1 brings back old UI permanently

EvgenKo423 commented 4 years ago

Well, all is not lost then! I had no time to search for solutions yet, but it seems like YT can't even remove it properly...

cyrildtm commented 4 years ago

spoofing UA to Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1 brings back old UI permanently

But somehow ads don't show up anymore, although I'm not blocking any. For now I'll have to temporarily disable my agent spoofing extension to support the channels I subscribed.

ImprovedTube commented 4 years ago

It also seems that the Youtube homepage wont work in legacy mode anymore? so it needs to be excluded or mimicked

@cyrildtm, ads (generally): The amount earned from ads is very low per viewer. When you work, your attention will be paid many times more per hour) So classic ads & Patreon can be succeeded by more directly, dynamically donating a bit automatically. ( Brave Browser introduces this (~15million users?). There you can split a small donation to all your sites/channels automatically / proportionally by how many minutes you spent with them (unless you favor specific sites. It also lets users earn a bit from the ads, they saw or for reporting bad ads / wrong categories.)

cyrildtm commented 4 years ago

It also seems that the Youtube homepage wont work in legacy mode anymore? so it needs to be excluded or mimicked

Ads (generally): The amount earned from ads is very low per viewer. (When you work, your attention will be paid many times more per hour) So classic ads & Patreon can be succeeded by more directly, dynamically donating a bit automatically. Brave Browser introduces this https://brave.com/?ref=imp716 There you can split a small donation to many sites/channels automatically and proportionally by how many minutes you spent with them (unless you favor specific sites) It also lets users earn a bit from the ads, they saw or for reporting bad ads / wrong categories.

Thanks for reply. Well, there's no need to specifically argue with you how the ads work, but I want to share my observation that "some" youtubers I have seen rely on this kind of ad income, big or small, for their life. My one view versus the total views, which would probably be hundreds of thousands, is still more than zero. Plus, not all youtubers take direct donations.

Again, the issue here is the legacy mode. Yes, it still works as of late June 2020, and I'm using it now. The method is described by @raszpl. So please do not take it down.

ImprovedTube commented 4 years ago

@cyrildtm Yes, we need to enhance our feature as of the recent Youtube change. That's why I was asking whether the legacy homepage (youtube.com/ ) still works and lists videos for any of you guys? You might either just see the new one or see the empty one with the user-agent method.

Ads: True! And some people might even like watching ads. Yet the future is efficient/empowering. Any content creator's earnings can already add up for them before they first notice and sign up for an automatic funding economy like Brave Browser. An ad is a specific type of micro donation (usually very underpaid unless perceived as art). In the past direct micro donations did not happen, since classic payment services have a fixed transaction fee (such as paypal $0.35)

@ccrowles did export work in Vivaldi before? Thanks!

Sion89 commented 4 years ago

Please fix Legacy Youtube option...

Raydor commented 4 years ago

You can see an old YouTube design there - youtube.com/channel/UCiM5GYL_ePasSpyyWZEBdOg/videos?disable_polymer=1 youtube.com/user/zubok1000/videos?disable_polymer=1

Just add "?disable_polymer=1"

"?disable_polymer=1" stopped working too :(

ghost commented 4 years ago

YouTube no longer supports legacy version. Broken legacy version will be available until Google updates its search services.

Do you need the "Legacy YouTube" theme for new YouTube?

EvgenKo423 commented 4 years ago

Well, it would be cool to have a similarly-compact look in general, even if it won't fix increased traffic / lag issues.

Raydor commented 4 years ago

Well, it would be cool to have a similarly-compact look in general, even if it won't fix increased traffic / lag issues.

Totally agree.

I like the way comments and views,likes,etc looked on legacy youtube, more compact and less expanded.

ImprovedTube commented 4 years ago

if some of you want to work with user-agents in the meantime, this seems to allow specific URLs / wildcard: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/custom-useragent-string/lejiafennghcpgmbpiodgofeklkpahoe (globally applied extensions can be limited by rightclick or chrome://extensions, but not by URL)

ImprovedTube commented 4 years ago

Quick Survey: @ccrowles @Felina-Lain @Sion89 @EvgenKo423 @raszpl @cyrildtm @Raydor Did you guys 'get over classic youtube' ?
or found a good solution? or would you still like if we brought back any of it? Happy Weekend!

cyrildtm commented 4 years ago

As of now I'm sticking with the old playlist/watch later interface. I can get that by doing both: 1) set user agent asMozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:33.0) Gecko/20120101 Firefox/33.0 (and maybe others provided by User-Agent Switcher for Chrome

and: 2) use /playlist?list=WL&disable_polymer=true

Changing/forcing user agent or setting cookies (f6=8 -- it gets reset when reloading any page at the website) does not seem to work on other pages. But the old watch later list is much much more powerful/convenient/faster than the new one. I can't survive 2 minutes in the new interface.

Raydor commented 4 years ago

Quick Survey: @ccrowles @Felina-Lain @Sion89 @EvgenKo423 @raszpl @cyrildtm @Raydor Did you guys 'get over classic youtube' ? or found a good solution? or would you still like if we brought back any of it? Happy Weekend!

Sadly I haven't found a solution :(

I personally just want old comment section or in general all the "below the video" things like the old style... I like things to be centered rather than expanded in designs, but im pretty okay if you don't take it back because I belive its a lot of work for just design purposes.

Other than that, I'm okay with the rest of the things 👍

EvgenKo423 commented 4 years ago

At 85% I'm mostly OK with new design, so I kind of gave up for now. I would still prefer it back, but don't care that much. The biggest con for me is huge thumbnails at home page even at 85% (and extension performance issues).

Felina-Lain commented 4 years ago

At this point I got used to the new one, though I'm annoyed that I can't get my homepage to be subscriptions even though I set it to be so And also the thumbnail size yeah

raszpl commented 4 years ago

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/good-old-youtube/klkejolkjcefmocpgpjiefbpmgofahmh

cyrildtm commented 4 years ago

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/good-old-youtube/klkejolkjcefmocpgpjiefbpmgofahmh

it removes ads

EvgenKo423 commented 4 years ago

Ahh, that speed...

I guess that's because it uses Google Bot's user agent as part of a fix. However, it's greatly customizable and you can choose different fix methods for different pages. I think if you choose something other than Headers, the ads will work as well. ;-)

cyrildtm commented 4 years ago

you can choose different fix methods for different pages. I think if you choose something other than Headers

For video pages, the currently existing choices are 1) Header, 2) Polymer (broken) and 3) off. When I choose either 2 or 3, yes the ads comes back, but it doesn't change the UI back. It's the same result.

ccrowles commented 4 years ago

Quick Survey: @ccrowles @Felina-Lain @Sion89 @EvgenKo423 @raszpl @cyrildtm @Raydor Did you guys 'get over classic youtube' ? or found a good solution? or would you still like if we brought back any of it? Happy Weekend!

Haven't found a solution yet :( Honestly I would be ok-ish with the new design if not for the fact that the video player actually takes the empty side borders too, so when I pop it out the pop-out window is extremely large... This is what the popout window looks like: Screenshot_2020_11_09-21-20_140957 I wish the player would actually take the normal video size like how it was before the new youtube layout. Other than that I have more or less accepted the new design.

EvgenKo423 commented 4 years ago

@cyrildtm Doh! Didn't check it specifically, just hoped there are multiple working options for video.

cyrildtm commented 4 years ago

@cyrildtm Doh! Didn't check it specifically, just hoped there are multiple working options for video.

There is always hope. But if you want to know the truth, there aren't other options than everything or nothing. I don't care if my own solution is replicated in any particular forms of implementation, but I have something that works.

EvgenKo423 commented 4 years ago

I think I've got one too and it's neither everything nor nothing. :smirk:

  1. Disable autoplay;
  2. Enable the extension;
  3. Load a video page;
  4. Disable the extension;
  5. Start a video.

You've got a player with ads. :sunglasses: The extension could do this automatically though.

ImprovedTube commented 3 years ago

Summing up @raszpl @Felina-Lain @ccrowles

Solution working (why didnt we?)

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/good-old-youtube/klkejolkjcefmocpgpjiefbpmgofahmh

Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1)

useragent has no side-effect on video pages besides removing ads

Alternatively 3 missing features/fixes for the new Youtube:

  1. At this point I got used to the new one, though I'm annoyed that I can't get my homepage to be subscriptions even though I set it to be so

  2. And also the thumbnail size yeah

  3. would be ok-ish with the new design if not for the fact that the video player actually takes the empty side borders too, so when I pop it out the pop-out window is extremely large... This is what the popout window looks like:

    new youtube player

I wish the player would actually take the normal video size like how it was before the new youtube layout. Other than that I have more or less accepted the new design.

EvgenKo423 commented 3 years ago

Solution working (why didnt we?)

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/good-old-youtube/klkejolkjcefmocpgpjiefbpmgofahmh

Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1)

useragent has no side effect besides removing ads

Correction: it quite was working. YouTube broke the old layout once again a few weeks ago, so it's hardly usable: the sidebar doesn't show any playlists anymore and only 7 random subscriptions are shown. Search page is broken as well. I'm still using it, but partly mixed with new layout, thanks to the options available.

allanlaal commented 2 years ago

since non-polymer legacy youtube is now ancient history, can this issue be closed? :)

ImprovedTube commented 2 years ago

@allanlaal i dont know how to close issues

ImprovedTube commented 2 years ago

https://github.com/code-for-charity/YouTube-Extension/discussions/868

~ 2014 to ~2020

youtube's 'best' years



youtube retro
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