n900 (panel/status menu/software keyboard) exist but no japanese text possible in "Notes"

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What steps will reproduce the problem?
1. Install all matching "qimsys" applications on the n900
2. Run qimsys
 $ export XMODIFIERS=@im=qimsys 
 $ export QT_IM_MODULE=qimsys 
 $ export GTK_IM_MODULE=qimsys 
 $ qimsys & 
3. click battery icon on top bar.
 a. click on qimsys.
 b. click on any fields and change them.
 c. click the blank space at the top.
 d. click back on qimsys and nothing happens.
4. click battery icon on top bar.
 a. click on qimsys.
 b. the bottom 3 fields say "Open..." but clicking on them either generates and error message and goes to a screen just containing the title bar and a completely blank body.
5. click on the battery icon on the top bar.
 a. click the japanese icon.
 b. highlighting changes but nothing else.
6. click on the battery icon on the top bar.
 a. click on the key icon.
 b. highlighting changes and onscreen keyboard comes up but may or may not let you turn it off.

What is the expected output? What do you see instead?
1. When the Japanese mini icon shows next to the battery you should be able to 
type japanese characters.
2. when the onscreen keyboard is up you should be able to use it to type.
3. When you click anywhere on the preferences where it says open it should 
bring you to the corresponding place (not a blank screen with a title bar.)

What version of the product are you using? On what operating system?
qimsys-core 0.1.0~git20110131maemo3 ON Maemo 1.3

Please provide any additional information below.
Only Japanese input method I have been able to get to work so far is mscim

Original issue reported on code.google.com by j3va...@gmail.com on 31 Jan 2011 at 4:20

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Thanks for installing qimsys and reporting the issue.

Could you try below on X Terminal app? then check if you see a lot of logs 
starting with "qimsys_im_" on the terminal.
$ QIMSYS_DEBUG=1 osso_notes

> What is the expected output? What do you see instead?
> 1. When the Japanese mini icon shows next to the battery you should be able 
to type japanese characters.

Good point. I'll hide(or change) the icon when it is not available.

2. when the onscreen keyboard is up you should be able to use it to type.

definitely.

3. When you click anywhere on the preferences where it says open it should 
bring you to the corresponding place (not a blank screen with a title bar.)

This is a packaging issue. I'll ask the packager.

Original comment by stas...@gmail.com on 31 Jan 2011 at 10:23

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$ QIMSYS_DEBUG=1 osso_notes

I currently have qimsys uninstalled and am instead using mscim. I will try 
again later with qimsys installed.

Output on terminal is a lot of stuff related to:
osso_notes
But not:
qimsys or mscim

The command finishes by opening the Notes application and showing me the notes 
I already have.

Original comment by j3va...@gmail.com on 31 Jan 2011 at 10:49

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try the following.
1. create /home/user/.profile including the following
export QT_IM_MODULE=qimsys
export GTK_IM_MODULE=qimsys

2. reboot N900

3. after rebooted, open terminal and then execute "qimsys", currently 
/usr/bin/qimsys is just a script file for qimsys.bin, and it executes 
qimsys.bin as background, so you don't need to specify qimsys as background 
process.

4. make sure that status bar shows Japanese national flag

5. run something app, e.g. Note, and open hardware keyboard and hit Ctrl+Space 
to toggle Japanese/ English

Original comment by kimit...@gmail.com on 31 Jan 2011 at 10:54

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I also never installed the following because I didn't have the option from 
Faster Application Manager:
qimsys-dev
qimsys-doc

I thought it might be important since they are listed at:
http://maemo.org/packages/search/?org_maemo_packages_search[1][property]=name&or
g_maemo_packages_search[1][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[1][value]=
qimsys&org_maemo_packages_search[2][property]=title&org_maemo_packages_search[2]
[constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[2][value]=same

Also, I am not sure if there is a better place for documentation than:
http://code.google.com/p/qimsys/

Original comment by j3va...@gmail.com on 31 Jan 2011 at 10:56

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You don't have to install qimsys-dev and qimsys-doc. These are for developers 
especially who wants to develop qimsys on N900.

I updated http://code.google.com/p/qimsys/ but this is mainly for desktop users 
and contains old information. I'm looking for people writing good documentation 
on the wiki page.

Original comment by stas...@gmail.com on 31 Jan 2011 at 11:52

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I got Japanese input by following all 5 steps in comment 3 which was mainly to:
1. create /home/user/.profile including the following
export QT_IM_MODULE=qimsys
export GTK_IM_MODULE=qimsys

However, it does not let me change the settings still... I can only switch back 
and forth from English to a Hiragana Keyboard like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Japanese

Perhaps there is a keycombo to switch what the japanese output will be when I 
press certain keys? Ctrl + Space only toggles japanese input on and off.

The preference pane keeps resetting values to:
Input Method: Japanese (Standard)
Input Character: Direct
Input Style: Romaji
Conversion Engine: Anthy
User Dictionary: Open...
Settings: Open...
About qimsys: Open...

Also "Open..." just loads the Title Bar and a blank page.

From terminal:
$ QIMSYS_DEBUG=1 osso_notes

I get a lot of:
+ qimsys_im_XXX
- qimsys_im_XXX

Where:
XXX = some arbitrary string such as "context_new"

Original comment by j3va...@gmail.com on 1 Feb 2011 at 2:59

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> I got Japanese input by following all 5 steps in comment 3 which was mainly 
to:

That's good to hear. Are you able to type Hiragana?

> Perhaps there is a keycombo to switch what the japanese output will be when I 
press certain keys? Ctrl + Space only toggles japanese input on and off.

What kind of output are you expecting?

> The preference pane keeps resetting values to:

This is a known issue, already fixed in the source repository. The package 
doesn't include the fix yet.

Values selected in the dialogs will be set correctly. The pane doesn't reset 
these settings. Problem here is the pane doesn't show the current correct 
settings.

> Also "Open..." just loads the Title Bar and a blank page.

This is also known issue. But there are no important functionality behind them 
to input Japanese.

> I get a lot of:
> + qimsys_im_XXX
> - qimsys_im_XXX

Thanks, this means the app uses qimsys backend.

Original comment by stas...@gmail.com on 1 Feb 2011 at 4:26

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Primarily I want to be able to type words I read/hear in Japanese into Giten.

The kind of outcome I am expecting is a way to predictably enter Japanese 
characters from the english n900 keyboard without having to rely on 
memorization of the Japanese keyboard layout:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Japanese

ie)
ka >> か
KA >> カ

not:
ka >> のさ
ka >> ノチ

At this point I don't really know kanji either but I think I would want to have 
it so after typing a string (nomatter how it autoconverts originally) and 
pressing space or down arrow I could get a dropdown list of possible 
conversions.

It would also be nice if the onscreen keyboard:
1. displayed only hiragana if it was going to output only hiragana 
directly/initially
2. display only katakana if it was going to output only katakana 
directly/initially

IMs that I am familiar with are:
OSX Japanese Input Method (Romaji, Hiragana, Katakana)
SCIM Anthy
MSCIM

Conclusion:
Perhaps what I want is not to type japanese like japanese people do as I am not 
totally sure how they do it but rather to type japanese only as it converts 
from the english text to the japanese text phonetically. And I don't know how 
to do that with QIMSYS.

Original comment by j3va...@gmail.com on 1 Feb 2011 at 5:10

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1. Open the qimsys preference pane
2. Select "Kana" in Input Style
3. Select "Romaji" in Input Style
4. Close the pane

Then you are able to type Hiragana as you want.
Change Hiaragana/Katakana mode in the pain (even though the pane looks like 
these settings are all reset.)

QIMSYS is not a special input method but a standard input method similar to 
Kotoeri, SCIM and so on. This is a new input method and does not work perfectly 
yet.

Feel free to file bugs you find in qimsys. I'll fix them as much as possible.

Original comment by stas...@gmail.com on 1 Feb 2011 at 5:31

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s/pain/pane/ :(

Original comment by stas...@gmail.com on 1 Feb 2011 at 7:48

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Got it with steps 1-4 although step 2 should read:
Input Character
not:
Input Style

So now I have:
hiragana (default)
kanji (with space pressed when underline exists)
english (with ctrl + space)

But how do I input katakana without having to go back into the preference 
pain/pane? 

Thanks for all the help.

I am very happy that there is finally a good looking input method for maemo.

I hope my feedback is useful too.

Original comment by j3va...@gmail.com on 1 Feb 2011 at 10:23

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I'm grad to hear that!

As for Katakana input, I created another issue #20.

Let me know whatever wrong with qimsys :)

Original comment by stas...@gmail.com on 1 Feb 2011 at 1:19

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