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Linux Software to print with LabelManager PnP from Dymo
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Fork this project to a new GH org, and deprecate it #114

Closed tomers closed 1 month ago

tomers commented 4 months ago

As discussed in PR #113, we plan to fork this project in a new Github organization. This issue is for discussing and managing related logistics.

Name

Reasonable names are hard to find, as they are mostly already taken by other companies and products. I consulted OpenAI, and came up with the name 'LabelGenious'. @maresb, @tomek-szczesny please approve.

tomek-szczesny commented 4 months ago

What's wrong with keeping the old name? I don't think we have to pretend it's not a direct continuation of this project.

EDIT: On the other hand, other projects did change name for similar reasons. Such as yt-dlp. How about dymoprint+?

maresb commented 4 months ago

We'd like this project to be able to expand to non-Dymo printers.

I think LabelGenious is misspelled and should be LabelGenius. That aside I personally have fairly negative connotations around the word "genius".

Not sure if it's much better, but maybe simplelabel or labelsimple?

maresb commented 4 months ago

Also, we the name may come out better if we don't include the words "label" or "print". For example we could choose the name of some random obscure animal.

I'd also like to get feedback here from @computerlyrik, @MooVx, @putzio, @aleksas, @systeemkabouter, @claui.

tomek-szczesny commented 4 months ago

To pick a name, we could do it the old Unix way. Let's settle on a descriptive acronym, such as: Free Label Printer Software.

Then: cat /usr/share/dict/* | grep ^f.*l.*p.*s | awk '{ print length, $0 }' | sort -n | cut -d" " -f2- | uniq

There you go, Flopsy. :)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Flopsy is a common name for pet rabbits.

As close as it gets to a random animal. ;)

maresb commented 4 months ago

I really love both the name and the method @tomek-szczesny! I'm so disappointed that it's already taken by this project.

tomek-szczesny commented 4 months ago

The method was in use as early as in Samba (SMB) days. :) Norally I'd argue it's not a trademark, but I agree the new name should be at least available in pip.

Any other acronyms we could try?

maresb commented 4 months ago

^la.*pr gives lamprey. It's available, but lampreys are pretty ugly.

Open source label printer → oversleep. I'm not so convinced.

Maybe something like libreprint?

tomers commented 4 months ago

libreprint sounds good. I checked and it was not taken, besides some obsolete GH project, nrc/libreprint https://github.com/nrc/libreprint, which is 10 y.o. The name corresponds with other open source projects, such as libreoffice.

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^la.*pr gives lamprey. It's available, but lampreys are pretty ugly.

Open source label printer → oversleep. I'm not so convinced.

Maybe something like libreprint?

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tomek-szczesny commented 4 months ago

I don't like libreprint, because it implies a much broader spectrum of uses than just label printing. Looks like a name for re-implementation of CUPS.

Revisiting my best idea so far, flopsie appears to be available. I tried ^[lfo].*l.*p.*[s] for Libre/Free/Open Label Printer Software/Suite and can't see any better candidates at the moment.

I don't intend to take part in making the final decision, it's just my contribution to the topic. :)

systeemkabouter commented 4 months ago

Hi,

Just my 2c, Libre Label covers the purpose and has the nice alliterating quality to it. Libre Tag also seems a good option

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I don't like libreprint, because it implies a much broader spectrum of uses than just label printing. Looks like a name for re-implementation of CUPS.

Revisiting my best idea so far, flopsie appears to be available. I tried ^[lfo].l.p.*[s] for Libre/Free/Open Label Printer Software/Suite and can't see any better candidates at the moment.

I don't intend to take part in making the final decision, it's just my contribution to the topic. :)

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maresb commented 4 months ago

Thanks for keeping the ideas flowing!

I agree that LibreLabel is better than LibrePrint.

My main concern with "flopsie" is confusion with "flopsy". It'll be really easy for someone to mistype or misremember and end up with the wrong package.

tomers commented 4 months ago

I also agree that LibreLabel is better than LibrePrint. Ben, can we conclude this, and commit to this name?

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Thanks for keeping the ideas flowing!

I agree that LibreLabel is better than LibrePrint.

My main concern with "flopsie" is confusion with "flopsy". It'll be really easy for someone to mistype or misremember and end up with the wrong package.

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maresb commented 4 months ago

I'd be fine with LibreLabel, but I think we might as well keep the discussion open until tomorrow. People who don't check GitHub over the weekend may have something to contribute. Besides, we're not yet ready to cut a release since master and tomer_fixes are broken. (See https://github.com/tomers/dymoprint/pull/6 for a potential fix.)

maresb commented 4 months ago

Thanks @aleksas for two suggestions via email!

TagTailor, Taggle

I like Taggle and it's available on PyPI, but unfortunately it seems to be already in use a lot of companies. For example, when I search from France it comes up as the name of a French board game. I'd prefer to aim for something distinctive.

TagTailor seems a reasonable competitor to LibreLabel. (My personal feeling is that LibreLabel is more descriptive.)

claui commented 4 months ago

Another suggestion, albeit not entirely distinctive, would be Labelle.

It’s a portmanteau of the words label and belle. Also a pseudo-homonym of the French la belle. Besides, it’s closely related to the German name for a (not-so-obscure) animal, the Libelle (dragonfly).

tomers commented 4 months ago

Labelle sounds great to me! It is also available in both pip and Github. It is also a funk rock band: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labelle

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Another suggestion, albeit not entirely distinctive, would be Labelle.

It’s a portmanteau of the words label and belle. Also a pseudo-homonym of the French la belle. Besides, it’s closely related to the German name for a (not-so-obscure) animal, the Libelle https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libellen (dragonfly).

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tomek-szczesny commented 4 months ago

We got some great suggestions already. I wish I had this kind of support when I named my projects. :)

How do we choose one now? I think we can safely rule out LibrePrint, Flopsy/Flopsie, and Taggle.

If I'm not mistaken, we accumulated so far: LibreLabel, LibreTag, TagTailor, Labelle. I like Labelle the most, because it's just two syllables.

maresb commented 4 months ago

Brilliant suggestion @claui! I also like Labelle the most of all the suggestions so far.

Unfortunately when I check it seems that the GitHub organization is already taken: https://github.com/labelle That's an annoyance, but I think we can work around it. For example, we could make an organization called labelle-devs.

tomek-szczesny commented 4 months ago

Just checked there are no packages in Arch, Manjaro or AUR named labelle.

For example, we could make an organization called labelle-devs.

Won't that be confusing though?

maresb commented 4 months ago

Won't that be confusing though?

I don't think so. I'm more concerned about users pip install-ing the wrong package. I'm fairly confident that GitHub contributors will be able to locate our repository, e.g. via Google rather than through the organization name. Most projects don't have an organization that matches the project title. Besides, we can have PyPI link back to the correct repository.

These might need just a tiny bit of work /s, but here's some inspiration for a possible logo :joy:

claui commented 4 months ago

We could ask the owner whether they might be willing to donate the org name to us, given that theirs appears abandoned.

claui commented 4 months ago

@jdickan Excuse the intrusion, but are you still using your GitHub organization github.com/labelle? If not, would you consider donating it to this project?

tomek-szczesny commented 4 months ago

I think he has to be contacted via linkedin, that github account also appears abandoned.

claui commented 3 months ago

Won't that be confusing though?

I don’t think it’s that confusing. I figure people mostly click on search results or other existing links rather than synthesize a URL by hand.

tomers commented 3 months ago

So it seems we all agree on the name labelle for the project. Since https://github.com/labelle is taken, then what would you suggest the organization name will be? Maybe https://github.com/labelle-org ?

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Won't that be confusing though?

I don’t think it’s that confusing. I figure people mostly click on search results or other existing links rather than synthesize a URL by hand.

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tomek-szczesny commented 3 months ago

labelle-org is fine, so would be labelle-devs, labelle-hq..

maresb commented 2 months ago

Labelle v1.0.0 has been released on PyPI and is equivalent to Dymoprint v2.4.0.

https://github.com/labelle-org/labelle

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Labelle v1.1.0 will be released soon, and it will be equivalent to the current master.

tomers commented 2 months ago

Great achievement, Ben!

Thanks a lot for your efforts. Once we're done with the migration, and after we'll merge my current work (I'll send a review soon enough), I think we should start publishing this "new" project in various channels. We should strive to increase our user base, and encourage developers to assist us.

Regards, Tomer

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Labelle v1.0.0 has been released on PyPI and is equivalent to Dymoprint v2.4.0.

https://github.com/labelle-org/labelle

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Labelle v1.1.0 will be released soon, and it will be equivalent to the current master.

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maresb commented 2 months ago

We did it, Labelle v1.1.0 is out!!! Many thanks to @tomers for rewriting a huge portion of the code!

Please give it a try and make sure I didn't mess anything up with the migration. Once we confirm that it's working well, we'll finish by deprecating Dymoprint.

maresb commented 1 month ago

For those determining which version of Dymoprint or Labelle to choose:

The CLI entrypoints have been updated as:

If you have installed Dymoprint with pipx, you can uninstall it with

pipx uninstall dymoprint

To install a particular version of Dymoprint or Labelle,

pipx install "labelle<2"  # Install the latest v1.x version of Labelle
# NOTE: The quotes are required because otherwise `<` is interpreted as a redirect.