Wordlist by Schryver-2015 of 92 items (Kongo languages)

LinguList commented 8 years ago

The paper is currently in press, and the link is here:

http://poj.peeters-leuven.be/content.php?url=article&id=3122579&journal_code=AL

They still need to upload the supplementeray material, but they announce that this will be available in the paper, so I expect this to be similar in structure to the Grollemund-list.

LinguList commented 8 years ago

so far no online material in sight, and they don't give the "tervuren" data, but only a link that points to a website where one can't really search, so this issue will have to wait until any updates have been made to the paper and the online material.

LinguList commented 8 years ago

I contacted the journal, and they told me I should turn to the authors, so I now turned to one of the authors and wait for a response. It's surprising that the journal, which is announced in the text to offer the supplementary data, does not feel responsible to launch it...

LinguList commented 8 years ago

Just received the link to an older version of the data by one of the authors, also 92 items, in French and English, from 1999: http://www.africamuseum.be/research/human-sciences/cultsoc/lexico-1/

xrotwang commented 7 years ago

@LinguList could you send the PDF?

LinguList commented 7 years ago

Okay, here's some data to be inserted (apart from mapping the list):

@Article{Schryver2015,
  author    = {de Schryver, Gilles-Maurice and Grollemund, Rebecca and Branford, Simon and Bostoen, Koen},
  journal   = {Africana Linguistica},
  number    = {1},
  pages     = {87-162},
  title     = {Introducing a state-of-the-art phylogenetic classification of the Kikongo Language Cluster},
  volume    = {21},
  year      = {2015},
}

@Book{Bastin1999,
  address   = {Tervuren},
  author    = {Bastin, Y. and Coupez, A. and Mann, M.},
  publisher = {Mus{\'e}e royal de l'Afrique centrale},
  title     = {Continuity and divergence in the Bantu languages: perspectives from a lexicostatistic study},
  year      = {1999},
  isbn      = {9789075894271},
}

As a text, I'd suggest:

The selection of 92 concepts goes back to a lexicostatistic survey of Bantu languages by [Bastin et al. (1999)](:ref:Bastin1999). The original data is based on older sources on the Bantu languages, which are now online available at the [home page of the [Royal Museum for Central Africa](http://www.africamuseum.be/research/human-sciences/cultsoc/lexico-1/). As far as we can tell, only French was used to gloss the concepts in the languages, and instead of only 92 concepts (which basically overlap with [Swadesh's list of 100 items](:ref:Swadesh-1955-100) we find occasional lists with 93 concepts. Hence, given that we have not yet traced all the sources (not even the original data), we still know little about the concrete relations between the list by Schryver et al., and its predecessors, and we will be glad about any hints from our colleagues.

LinguList commented 7 years ago

Okay, I'll send PDF via email, as it's not open access.

LinguList commented 7 years ago

As you can see from the description, the history of this list is apparently quite complicated. This is not necessarily the case, but since I don't have the book of Bastin et al., I have a hard-time tracing how the data was collected, etc., Anyway, an impression of the raw data gives the collection of PDF-files: http://www.africamuseum.be/research/human-sciences/cultsoc/lexico-1/

I think, they really went through all the data and tried hard to add all forms manually, for the concepts. Quite time-consuming, I think.

concepticon / concepticon-data

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