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Kruskal-1973-200 #80

Open LinguList opened 8 years ago

LinguList commented 8 years ago

This list is not available in scanned form, and I don't have access to the book, but apparently it contains some 200 item list (probably classical Swadesh):

Kruskal, J. B., Dyen, I., & Black, P. (1973). Some results from the vocabulary method of reconstructing language trees. In I. Dyen (Ed.), Lexicostatistics in genetic linguistics (2nd ed., pp. 30–55). The Hague: Mouton & Co.

SimonGreenhill commented 8 years ago

That's not the one that was republished as a book in Dyen, Kruskal, Black - 1992 - An Indoeuropean Classification A lexicostatistical experiment?

LinguList commented 8 years ago

I'm not sure here. First Dyen et al are rather consistent in their concept labels, as can be seen from their lists available in the concepticon:

However, since we decided in an earlier discussion in #61 that we can't use the term "same list" if we talk about different sources, as, even if they are the same, this might only be the case at first side, and it would require us to specifically track that, e.g., Kruskal-1973-200 is the same as Dyen-1992-200, this would mean that Kruskal-1973-200 still is a potentially valid list for us.

Pragmatically, we can, of course, say that adding this list has low priority, but given the problems of identifying whether two lists are really the same (I have examples where one and the same author says in two references that the same list is used, but in the end it turns out that "rain" is once a verb and once a noun), and also our pragmatic problems encountered when comparing, e.g., the official source listing the concepts with the actual data in spreadsheet in LexiBank (as it recently turned out when comparing some sources in lexibank), it seems to be the best to stick to this "add all" principle.