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Allemande needs 'handy hand' #286

Open cranhandler opened 6 years ago

cranhandler commented 6 years ago

Allemande (who, hand, circling, beats, note)

hand is currently (right | left ) needs to be (right | left | handy )

to accomodate Tetrahymena Twirl https://sites.google.com/site/marthawildscallsofthewild/

dcmorse commented 6 years ago

Let's be honest: this isn't a minor request. This is a request for all figures that can have two couples twirling to support both twirling opposite directions. So: allemande gyre do-si-do gate mad robin (I think Martha Edwards calls this something else bird-themed)

And also the ContraDB thing to do would be to encode the direction of allemanding for each couple.

cranhandler commented 6 years ago

I'm confused. A person can't handy-hand do-si-do, they would collide. A gate is ALWAYS handy-hand.

Handy-hand just means 'gents left hand ladies right hand' or 'ladies left hand gents right hand.' The context of the dance specifies which.

dcmorse commented 6 years ago

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 12:00 PM, cranhandler notifications@github.com wrote:

I'm confused. A person can't handy-hand do-si-do, they would collide. A gate is ALWAYS handy-hand.

My reading of handy-hand is 'people on the left side of the set go clockwise, while people on right hand side of the set go counter-clockwise' (or the reverse).

Here's a gate where everyone is going clockwise: http://contradb.com/dances/97

Handy-hand just means 'gents left hand ladies right hand' or 'ladies left hand gents right hand.' The context of the dance specifies which.

Hand is a method of encoding rotation direction, and if we're going to provide that level of control for allemandes, I fear we need to provide it down the line for every figure.

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cranhandler commented 6 years ago

The no-hands equivalent of this figure is the 'clover-leaf turn' , as called in Greensleeves by Fred Parks.

Similar but not the same is the 'mirror turn'.

cranhandler commented 6 years ago

Currently used as custom in http://contradb.com/dances/322 http://contradb.com/dances/568

and a fresh request from Nicholas

dcmorse commented 6 years ago

Nicholas also requested handy-hand box-the-gnat. Oof.

dcmorse commented 4 years ago

Adam Carlson:

I just went to enter Goodnight Kiss by Carol Ormand. It has a mirror shoulder round, but that wasn't an option. I checked Allemande, the other move that sometimes is done with mirror hands, and it doesn't have mirror either.