cooljeanius / The_Earths_Gut

The Earth's Gut (TEG) is a Wesnoth add-on campaign; originally by @anonymissimus
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S09: Nightmare shouldn't say "Death to the living!" when he can recruit living Dark Adepts himself #9

Closed cooljeanius closed 3 years ago

cooljeanius commented 3 years ago

It doesn't make sense for the Nightmare to say "Death to the living!" and then only attack some of the living. Either change the dialogue (easier, but still kind of nonsensical), or change the undead side to be its own team (would require some rebalancing, which would be harder, but make more sense).

cooljeanius commented 3 years ago

(originally reported by @knyghtmare on Discord)

cooljeanius commented 3 years ago

ok so PR #10 from @Ashmyr should address this; I'll still need to test it myself, though... hey @knyghtmare WDYT?

cooljeanius commented 3 years ago

Actually, wait. The name of the scenario is "Unusual Allies". Does that refer to the player and the trolls, or all the enemy sides that had previously allied to oppose the player, before we put them on separate teams?

knyghtmare commented 3 years ago

Seems okay to me. Would probably require a quick playtest to see what happens.

cooljeanius commented 3 years ago

Seems okay to me. Would probably require a quick playtest to see what happens.

I'm testing it now; I'll probably be adding some additional changes...

cooljeanius commented 3 years ago

ok, so after testing @Ashmyr's changes, the enemy sides don't actually fight each other that much, meaning that the extra gold they get pretty much just straight-up buffs them, rather than compensating for any infighting they're supposed to do... I think I might want to give the player and the allied trolls some more gold, too?

Ashmyr commented 3 years ago

Hmmm...alright. Makes sense to buff the player too. Maybe if there's target WML you could remove it so they focus on each other? When I played it they did target the allied Troll side more...though the Goblins raided the SE trolls a lot.

cooljeanius commented 3 years ago

Oh, and there still remains the issue of the undead being able to recruit Dark Adepts, too...

cooljeanius commented 3 years ago

Oh, and there still remains the issue of the undead being able to recruit Dark Adepts, too...

Retitling this issue to just be about this part

knyghtmare commented 3 years ago

Oh, and there still remains the issue of the undead being able to recruit Dark Adepts, too...

just replace those Adepts with a custom skeletal mage unit. Ageless Era has loads of them.

cooljeanius commented 3 years ago

So, when I played through this scenario for the first time, it was my first chance to experience the "Berserker laughs when attacking a Dark Adept" Easter Egg, and that was memorable for me and something I'd like to preserve, so if I change it to a different unit, I'd want to make sure it's also one that doesn't have any melee attacks. Although, actually, I just got a different idea for how I could fix this, so I don't think I'll be using a different unit after all...

cooljeanius commented 3 years ago

ok fixed by bb57467