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An analysis of adaptation of urban living in Australian birds
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pretty little bird line drawings for phylo figure #25

Closed wcornwell closed 6 years ago

coreytcallaghan commented 6 years ago

I think that this paper uses the illustrations from HBW such as here

Just have to figure out how they get them and how much they cost...

coreytcallaghan commented 6 years ago

Found this: http://www.lynxeds.com/content/how-request-illustrations-lynx-edicions

coreytcallaghan commented 6 years ago

Would we violate this: "Reproduction rights granted are personal to the client and may not be transferred to third parties. We do not grant permission to publish our illustrations under an Open Access Creative Commons license." if we published in an open access journal...?

wcornwell commented 6 years ago

No idea, maybe ask them?

coreytcallaghan commented 6 years ago

Will do.

Doesn't look terribly expensive:

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coreytcallaghan commented 6 years ago

Could probably get about 20 I would think, and it might cost a couple hundred AUD. Can check it out more closely.

coreytcallaghan commented 6 years ago

Just a comment/note when I am thinking about this...

It would be good to have a representative from each major order or so, and representative which are high, low, and medium 'urbanness'.

Also, it might be good to have one or two "species pairs". Australian Ibis and Straw-necked Ibis and/or Superb Fairywren and White-winged Fairywren.

Let the results decide which ones to actually include.

coreytcallaghan commented 6 years ago

Just as a note. It looks like for 25 illustrations, it would cost us about 200 euros (~320 AUD). Richard Major said he would shout it, and alternatively I have some excess grant funds that I could probably swing for it. Seems silly as it is just aesthetics, but I reckon it would make a bit more of a splash.

coreytcallaghan commented 6 years ago

I guess, before I close this, I reckon we should each pick one or two favorite birds to include?

Comment with favorite birds to consider, but note that we need to keep as much difference among the birds as possible! I assume @johnWilshire will choose a raptor.

I'll claim Pacific Black Duck (for the waterfowl section) and Australasian/Purple Swamphen (for the Rallidea section)

johnWilshire commented 6 years ago

Australian Magpie! and maybe the Wedge Tailed Eagle!

coreytcallaghan commented 6 years ago

Found a student in BEES who is going to do the drawings. So, I'm going to send her a list today. @wcornwell do you have a couple favorite AUS birds you'd like to nominate?

wcornwell commented 6 years ago

You can pick. Need to represent the major groups so should see where the other ones are first. Maybe an emu wren to cover passerines?

coreytcallaghan commented 6 years ago

Cool.