Open nzg187 opened 6 years ago
@christen90 so it seems to be a per device thing? Or we have different board revisions? Well, I don't really know for sure, all I know is that the data I got from any of the 2 BIOS chip was all scrambled and different everytime I tried reading it without a charger.
And for the record, here is my E1-531-2606 in all it's glory and half-naked:
Thank you @Naddly . I don't have any flasher at the moment, but i will sure get one soon. Can rpi Pico be used to extract the .rom from chip? I am planning to buy that for some time...
Can you help me with this, here's what i get when i try to save the bios with swaped ME region:
@coa9000 a RPi can do the job, but I would not be able to help you with it as I don't know how to use it nor have one myself. Anyway a CH341 programmer is so cheap that it's just worth it to buy one along with it's SOIC8 clip to program ICs (hopefully ) without removing them.
I think I can prepare an update file already modded with the v7 Intel ME, here's it: F8.zip But I have to warn you that it will be risky to use without having a backup made directly from your BIOS chip.
The changes I did to this file was:
F8_ME_FW.FD
version 8 to a version 7;I also modified the platform.ini
so the settings are as follow:
(do a backup before flashing)
(confirm before flashing)
(flash the ME region too)
I don't exactly know how this BackupROM works but we might as well test it, it's supposed to backup your current BIOS to the C drive. So in the worst case scenario you'll still have a working backup to recover your laptop.
As you could guess, I don't have any way to test it before you do, so you are assuming all the risks of what can happen. I still strongly advise you to get a programmer ASAP and try to do a backup before any bios mod.
I advise you to:
* Get a cheap CH341 Programmer _(or anything that can reprogram ICs, a Raspberry Pi can do it too)_ with a SOIC8 clip. * Try to read and save your BIOS, and proceed to try and mod it **ONLY** if you can reliably read it multiple times in a row getting the same exact file _(check using hash, like SHA-256 or any other really)_. * If you can't read it, you're out of luck, just stop right there and don't try nothing BIOS related until you can somehow safely remove the BIOS chip and put it back again, because if you brick your BIOS you WILL have to remove it to reprogram it.
Something worth noting is that the BIOS chip is usually readable if you remove the CPU from its socket.
@Fusseldieb yes, but there are BIOS that can't be read even removing everything you can. I actually have a laptop motherboard that is like this and I'm waiting for a new soldering station to arrive so I can remove the IC and flash a modified bios that supports 3rd gen Intel, as the original doesn't have the 3rd gen Microcode.
@coa9000 a RPi can do the job, but I would not be able to help you with it as I don't know how to use it nor have one myself. Anyway a CH341 programmer is so cheap that it's just worth it to buy one along with it's SOIC8 clip to program ICs (hopefully ) without removing them.
I think I can prepare an update file already modded with the v7 Intel ME, here's it: F8.zip But I have to warn you that it will be risky to use without having a backup made directly from your BIOS chip.
The changes I did to this file was:
- Replace the original
F8_ME_FW.FD
version 8 to a version 7;- Replace the ME inside your 6MB BIOS using HxD, they were different sizes but all the extra half megabyte that your BIOS file had was blank, all FFs, so I just replaced the exact size of the ME region ignoring all the extra FFs;
I also modified the
platform.ini
so the settings are as follow:(do a backup before flashing)
(confirm before flashing)
(flash the ME region too)
I don't exactly know how this BackupROM works but we might as well test it, it's supposed to backup your current BIOS to the C drive. So in the worst case scenario you'll still have a working backup to recover your laptop.
As you could guess, I don't have any way to test it before you do, so you are assuming all the risks of what can happen. I still strongly advise you to get a programmer ASAP and try to do a backup before any bios mod.
Thank you mate, I have ordered ch341 online in my country for 8 euro... it will arrive in a couple days, so I will wait just to be sure I can unbrick it if anything goes wrong.
@coa9000 I'm glad you took my advise. 8 euro for this programmer is almost free, too little for anyone to risk modding their BIOS without it.
@christen90 I just noticed that sometimes my Ethernet port just stops working, it shows that it's plugged but with no internet, even when I unplug the cable it still shows it's plugged. It only works again when I go to Network Connections in the Control Panel, disable and activate the Ethernet adapter.
It's kinda random and rare to happen, but I noticed one very specific moment it will always happen. It is when I'm streaming Forza Horizon 4 (steam) from another PC to my E1-531 and I try to connect my Dualshock 4 via Bluetooth, doing that, the controller will work for a couple of seconds before the connection drop and my stream freeze. I have a Gigabit Ethernet link between the 2.
My first thought is that this can be caused by something BIOS related, as I don't remember it happening before I started doing mods on it. I ask you to keep an eye on that to see if it happens to you at any moment, so we would confirm it's BIOS related and try to fix it.
Hello, who can help me? I have a hm70 Intel pentium b960 laptop and I have a problem. @corna @Fusseldieb Anyone who has time can help, I'm sorry I didn't tag many people, it would be spam, so I'm asking for help from everyone.
@NihadTermux What exactly is the problem you are having? Want to remove the 30 min restriction? It would also be nice to know the exact model of your laptop.
@NihadTermux What exactly is the problem you are having? Want to remove the 30 min restriction? It would also be nice to know the exact model of your laptop.
There are two bios here. Which one should I install? There is extraced, there is stock, there is extraced bios. After I edited it with Intel Me Easy, this is what happened. The flash tool image text is also gone. @Naddly
(Fujitsu lifebook ah502 This is what it looks like in bios) (Fujitsu lifebook ah512 It says so on the label on the back ) Ah512/ah502/a512 These 3 bios are the same
This is what I want to say, so you can understand it better. @Naddly The serial number is different in these, I just noticed
@NihadTermux I need to know exactly what you are trying to do there, your final objective, if you just want to update the BIOS or do something else. The more details the better XD
@NihadTermux I need to know exactly what you are trying to do there, your final objective, if you just want to update the BIOS or do something else. The more details the better XD
There are two bios, one is extracted and the other is stock extracted. When I use it with Intel Me, it becomes stock. Which one should I write in the bios? If you don't understand what I can say,
@Naddly I have a problem with my Intel me, it shuts down every 25 minutes.
@NihadTermux Answering your question, I would do a backup and write the BIOS with a "Stock" ME. But where did you got these BIOS files from? And did the laptop started to shut down every 25 mins after a CPU change?
@NihadTermux A quick tip for you, if the problem is the ME shutting down due to an unsupported CPU, just putting the laptop to "sleep" will restart the 25-30 min timer, you can do that until we discover how to fix it permanently.
I found it on the internet and installed it on my laptop and it works. Stock extracted confused me. When it comes to CPU, it shuts down every 25 minutes. Me analyzer says type, which one should I use? When I edit it with extraced Intel me and easy, it becomes stock and there is a Flash tool image text under the extraced text and it disappears. What do you suggest? @Naddly
@NihadTermux A quick tip for you, if the problem is the ME shutting down due to an unsupported CPU, just putting the laptop to "sleep" will restart the 25-30 min timer, you can do that until we discover how to fix it permanently.
I didn't understand your idea, you didn't understand mine either, there are extraced ones in stock here, what are they, which one should I use, this is the only problem I have, it turns off, I still don't have the CPU to test it, my master did it with I5. Now it doesn't have THAT CPU @Naddly
I ordered an i7 3632qm and I'm still waiting for it to arrive for 5-6 days, that's why I asked this. @Naddly
@Naddly I have been accepted to the university and my situation is not good, I do not have money to buy a laptop, so I will upgrade. If you can help me, I would be very happy. Feel free to ask anything I don't understand or want to ask.
@NihadTermux Well, only now you told me what is your objective.
First of all, do a backup of your current BIOS, the one that is currently working, DO NOT CONTINUE TO MOD YOUR BIOS WITHOUT A BACKUP. The way you'll make that backup doesn't matter, just do it before anything else. I can even help you if you don't know how to do it, just ask.
If you are sure that this BIOS you downloaded is the right one, just go ahead and flash the STOCK, it should work, if not, just flash again the backup you did earlier and try the EXTRACTED.
If neither of them works, I can help you doing a proper mod like I did on mine.
How do you plan to flash the new BIOS? Dou you have a CH341 or similar?
I'm not sure if you know, but just to reenforce, when I say "flash" is the same of "write".
@NihadTermux Well, only now you told me what is your objective.
First of all, do a backup of your current BIOS, the one that is currently working, DO NOT CONTINUE TO MOD YOUR BIOS WITHOUT A BACKUP. The way you'll make that backup doesn't matter, just do it before anything else. I can even help you if you don't know how to do it, just ask.
If you are sure that this BIOS you downloaded is the right one, just go ahead and flash the STOCK, it should work, if not, just flash again the backup you did earlier and try the EXTRACTED.
If neither of them works, I can help you doing a proper mod like I did on mine.
How do you plan to flash the new BIOS? Dou you have a CH341 or similar?
I'm not sure if you know, but just to reenforce, when I say "flash" is the same of "write".
I have tried two bios files and it works very well, stock extraced in me analyzer confused me, what do they mean, what is the meaning of extraced Clean file? intel me clean easy When you do Clean with the program, extraced turns into stock and if you look carefully at the photo, there is a Flash tool image text, it disappears, if you want and if you have permission, let me send you the Bios file and compare the two files and do clean me.
Am I allowed to post a video here? It'll be clearer.
@Naddly
@NihadTermux The difference between Stock and Extracted (as far as I know) is that the ME file has kind of an internal configuration.
Stock is when it's not configured, Extracted is when it is already configured. When you flash a Stock ME, your laptop will configure it to "fit", so it will turn into an "Extracted" ME There is even an official Intel tool to see and modify those settings, turning a Stock ME into an Extracted one.
I might be wrong though. There's not really that much info online about how the Intel ME works, this or I'm just bad ar googling.
@NihadTermux The difference between Stock and Extracted (as far as I know) is that the ME file has kind of an internal configuration.
Stock is when it's not configured, Extracted is when it is already configured. When you flash a Stock ME, your laptop will configure it to "fit", so it will turn into an "Extracted" ME There is even an official Intel tool to see and modify those settings, turning a Stock ME into an Extracted one.
I might be wrong though. There's not really that much info online about how the Intel ME works, this or I'm just bad ar googling.
Thank you, I am waiting for i7 3632qm. If there is a problem, I will let you know.
@NihadTermux Would be nice if you also share your working BIOS here, so anyone with the same laptop could just use it knowing it will work.
I forgot to answer, I don't know if you can post videos directly here, but you for sure can post YouTube links.
@NihadTermux Would be nice if you also share your working BIOS here, so anyone with the same laptop could just use it knowing it will work.
I forgot to answer, I don't know if you can post videos directly here, but you for sure can post YouTube links.
If it works when I put an i7 in it, I will share the files and let me tell you this: I installed the bios without Ch341a, I did not insert it into the laptop (I tried Windows 10, there was an exe for it, I touched it, it finished once, it loaded the bios)
@Naddly
If it works, I will make a YouTube video of it. I made 2-3 tutorials. Whoever has this method, if it works, will do it and use it.
I have a request from you, if you have the bios file, the file is clean and the ones that are not clean, View and Share on me analyzer, I will tell you the reason here. @Naddly
I installed the bios without Ch341a,
The programmer is useful if you happen to brick your system, it's nice that it worked first try for you but it isn't like that for everyone lol.
I have a request from you, if you have the bios file, the file is clean and the ones that are not clean, View and Share on me analyzer, I will tell you the reason here.
I don't understand exactly what do you mean here.
@NihadTermux
Has anyone had a success with this chipset and me_cleaner?
Yes! :)
Hello, It's been a while, but I'll share my experiences here on this topic. I have laptop ASUS X401A-WX095V (intel HM70 chipset) - originally came with Celeron B820. 2 weeks ago I swapped CPU to i5-2410M (from Toshiba Satellite Pro C660 on HM65 chipset) and like other Users every 30 min laptop suddenly turned off. But...
Yesterday I found a solution (for me and my x401a) which is as follows:
1. Dumped BIOS from EEPROM using external programmer (I using latest BIOS for this laptop ver 212), no need to desolder, 2. Next used Hex editor for downgrade ME Region to 7.0.4.1197. I used stock/clean ME Region 7.0.4.1197 for this downgrade purpose, 3. I flashed back new modded BIOS with new ME Region, ..and after that, laptop was able to turned on, enter to BIOS, but couldn't boot from any connected media drive (sata, usb)..., so I applied Linux version of "corna / me_cleaner " from github. So last step was: 4. I runed "me_cleaner.py -S" script on my new modded BIOS with downgraded ME Region 7.0.4 (in my case works first suggested option with capital S from me_cleaner instruction) and again flashed back second modded bios.
Thats it!! After that my laptop is able to boot from any media drive and working without 30 min shutdown!
note: -my Asus X401A on HM70 had original BIOS v212 with ME Region 8.0.10.1464 -donor Toshiba C660 on HM65 had BIOS v1.50 with ME Region 7.0.4.1197
Maybe this will help those who are still looking for a solution. Hope it does ;)
Best regards from Poland!
The result is positive. It works. As this friend said, I rolled the "ME 7.0.4" version with the help of Hex editor and applied "Me_Cleaner". The device worked smoothly with the i3 3rd generation processor. No 30 minute shutdown.
My device's model is "Asus X55A" and its default processor is "Celeron B" series.
If needed, I will upload the modded bios here.
I just wanted you to know that positive results can be obtained.
good luck.
Has anyone had a success with this chipset and me_cleaner?
Yes! :)
Hello, It's been a while, but I'll share my experiences here on this topic. I have laptop ASUS X401A-WX095V (intel HM70 chipset) - originally came with Celeron B820. 2 weeks ago I swapped CPU to i5-2410M (from Toshiba Satellite Pro C660 on HM65 chipset) and like other Users every 30 min laptop suddenly turned off. But...
Yesterday I found a solution (for me and my x401a) which is as follows:
- Dumped BIOS from EEPROM using external programmer (I using latest BIOS for this laptop ver 212), no need to desolder,
- Next used Hex editor for downgrade ME Region to 7.0.4.1197. I used stock/clean ME Region 7.0.4.1197 for this downgrade purpose,
- I flashed back new modded BIOS with new ME Region, ..and after that, laptop was able to turned on, enter to BIOS, but couldn't boot from any connected media drive (sata, usb)..., so I applied Linux version of "corna / me_cleaner " from github. So last step was:
- I runed "me_cleaner.py -S" script on my new modded BIOS with downgraded ME Region 7.0.4 (in my case works first suggested option with capital S from me_cleaner instruction) and again flashed back second modded bios.
Thats it!! After that my laptop is able to boot from any media drive and working without 30 min shutdown!
note: -my Asus X401A on HM70 had original BIOS v212 with ME Region 8.0.10.1464 -donor Toshiba C660 on HM65 had BIOS v1.50 with ME Region 7.0.4.1197
Maybe this will help those who are still looking for a solution. Hope it does ;)
Best regards from Poland!
Reporting my successful experience here. Samsung NP300E5X-S03RU Motherboard: SCALA3-15/17 REV1.0 CPU: Intel Pentium B960 BIOS: P02RAJ
Bought a CH341A programmer with a clip.
Connected the programmer, installed USB drivers and opened the required software. Disassembled the laptop, connected the clip to the BIOS chip, "read/save-to-file" to original.rom. That took a bit of trial an error to get the correct orientation (the programmer just disconnected from PC if the clip was connected the wrong way, so keem the chip key in mind or google..).
Took the original BIOS dump (8192KB) followed the instructions:
From my understanding, "Pathsburg Support - no" is referring to the AHCI controller support by this version or ME. Hence the problems in the previous comments.
So in the end i got 3 files with the exact same file size: 8193KB
Told the Programmer software to "Clean" the BIOS chip first. Erased the contents -> Opened the original_new_me_cleaned.rom -> Write to Chip
Installed the new CPU. No problems yet.
The new CPU is a bit hotter. 45W vs 35W on the original Pentium. The temps are 55c idle and about 80c on AIDA64 stress test. P.S. Don't forget to change BIOS settings and enable UEFI boot in case you already have an SSD with Windows. It scared the crap out of me after restarting 10 times in a row while trying to load the OS. UEFI Boot -> Yes, solved the issue.
Thank you again.
@Naddly 30 It shuts down every minute, I'll send you the bios, you clean it and send it to me.
@NihadTermux okay
@Naddly https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J8Nq-r37LggFvqKXHSMxlvSIcc32TpSi/view this
https://support.ts.fujitsu.com/indexdownload.asp?Softwareguid=d846b55f-0e73-43f8-b100-2ebfb56f229b
https://support.ts.fujitsu.com/indexdownload.asp?Softwareguid=e043124d-455c-42ec-83bc-9b3b08827379 Fujitsu I couldn't make any changes to what was on the website, I wanted you to take a look, I did the first one, whatever I did.
@Naddly Can you please check my message, I'm a little excited.
@NihadTermux Don't worry, I'm a little busy right now but I'll help you as soon as I can.
@Naddly I'm waiting, no problem, handle your work. 😁
I have one question for you. Can you downgrade this? (I install it via USB with dosflash bios or fptw64.exe and winflash) If I install the bios with this, would it be okay, or should I buy ch341a?
I have one question for you. Can you downgrade this? (I install it via USB with dosflash bios or fptw64.exe and winflash) If I install the bios with this, would it be okay, or should I buy ch341a? Reply when you have time
@Naddly Can you give me a date when your work will be completed? I'm waiting for you.
@Naddly What should I do here
@kabal-pl I need your help. Which Intel me version do you recommend for i7 3632qm? 7.0.4.1197. Does it support this processor? I did what you said with the flash image tool, downgraded the version And I cleaned it with me_cleaner corna
1.Photo original bios 2.Photo downgraded bios 3.Photo cleared bios with corna/me_cleaner
Hello! Glad to see that this topic is alive and my suggestions helped :)
@ NihadTermux All steps You have provided. All of us gave here lot of suggestions and steps how to figure out this. In my opinion "must" have external programmer like ch341a (I used this one) and then You must try through "trial and error method". If you don't check it, you won't know it :) That's why You need external programmer - if something goes wrong You can easily go back to previous/original BIOS. Regarding to Your question about ME - I suppose that 7.0.4.1197 should be fine, but like I wrote before - You have to try it :)
Good luck!
@kabal-pl If I buy ch341a, can I download it to my phone? How do I disassemble my computer? I will send you photos. If you can help me, you can post a video on YouTube (if it's not too much trouble) Thanks
@kabal-pl If I buy ch341a, can I download it to my phone? How do I disassemble my computer? I will send you photos. If you can help me, you can post a video on YouTube (if it's not too much trouble) Thanks
@ If I buy ch341a, can I download it to my phone? Unfortunately - i don't know. Better is to have another PC or Laptop to read/write (backup) EEPROM of Your BIOS. There is a lot of tutorials on YouTube how to use ch341a programmer. In Polish lang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5X6m4AxmMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsr288NRnHc
@ How do I disassemble my computer? Try google to find disassembly guide for Your Laptop model. Also search on YouTube.... Or eventually use (trust :) ) Your manual skills. Opening Laptop also will be useful to check if You have one or two ICs. Above @Naddly wrote great tutorial.
In my opinion modifying BIOS without external programmer (and BIOS backup) is very risky. In my case it took few evenings to find solution for my Asus, and I clean/write BIOS many times to find solution and receive final result.
Regards.
@kabal-pl If I buy ch341a, can I download it to my phone? How do I disassemble my computer? I will send you photos. If you can help me, you can post a video on YouTube (if it's not too much trouble) Thanks
@ If I buy ch341a, can I download it to my phone? Unfortunately - i don't know. Better is to have another PC or Laptop to read/write (backup) EEPROM of Your BIOS. There is a lot of tutorials on YouTube how to use ch341a programmer. In Polish lang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5X6m4AxmMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsr288NRnHc
@ How do I disassemble my computer? Try google to find disassembly guide for Your Laptop model. Also search on YouTube.... Or eventually use (trust :) ) Your manual skills. Opening Laptop also will be useful to check if You have one or two ICs. Above @Naddly wrote great tutorial.
In my opinion modifying BIOS without external programmer (and BIOS backup) is very risky. In my case it took few evenings to find solution for my Asus, and I clean/write BIOS many times to find solution and receive final result.
Regards.
Thanks
@kabal-pl I have a question: Intel me 7.0.4.1197. I bought the Intel me firmware from here and downgraded it. Did you do it from here or did you download it from the Intel me file in the bios of your old computer?
@kabal-pl I have a question: Intel me 7.0.4.1197. I bought the Intel me firmware from here and downgraded it. Did you do it from here or did you download it from the Intel me file in the bios of your old computer?
You bought it?? Seriously?? No need to pay for ME regions - You can download it for free: ME repos: here), I used ME region from this link above, not from Toshiba BIOS file.
I'm using Google translator and it translated incorrectly.
https://www.alisaler.com/intel-me-7-firmware-repository-pack-r25-download/ 1.5 SKU I downloaded it from here. Is there any problem? I will load the Bios from my friend's computer, I don't want to waste his time, that's why I said it and did it from here.
I have something to say, if this method works, I will ask for your permission. This is your method. I did not do it with Hex Editor, I did it with another method and this is an easier and error-free method. Do you allow me to share this method? If it works, if you let me, I will share it on YouTube and post the link here. And I will share your comment and tell you that this method is not my own, I found it easier and error-free.
@kabal-pl
@NihadTermux Can you provide your current bios to me? A backup via fptw64.exe would do. I need the exact 4MB or 8MB working file, just so I can replace the ME and do an ME Clean for you.
Computer bricked I'm waiting for Ch341a There is only UEFI in the 4mb bios file, no Intel Me @Naddly
Sorry I am new to GitHub don't know if this is the correct place to post this but
Is me_cleaner able to get past/remove the 30 minute shut down restrictions intel has on the HM70? kinda losing my mind on this one.
I have a HP Compaq CQ45-802TU Notebook PC with the HM70 chipset that want to use my i7 3632qm 35w in.
Windows 8.1 64 bit