Closed Ein-Tim closed 2 years ago
@Ein-Tim
That's an excellent idea, I will bring this up in our community management meeting.
@svengabr Thank you, I appreciate it!
Internal Tracking ID: EXPOSUREAPP-13312
If a stale bot is applied to old issues, then it is likely to increase the overhead of community moderators and I don't get the impression that there is any spare capacity for this type of task. Issue submitters will increase their activity if prompted by a bot, even if not all of them will react and they may need an answer or action from a community moderator based on this. Also, I don't think that there is any automated link in place between GitHub issues and Jira issues, so that could be another source of increased demand for community moderators.
How would you handle issues with label https://github.com/corona-warn-app/cwa-wishlist/labels/mirrored-to-jira which are obsolete, but still open? It seems like a bot will not solve this situation since it only takes action in GitHub, not in Jira.
For instance:
Let's say that the submitter agrees that the issue has been addressed, so then there would be a manual step necessary to also close the Jira issue.
I will test this on the above issue by placing a qualified comment in it.
If a stale bot is applied to old issues, then it is likely to increase the overhead of community moderators […]
May I ask why? The scenario is the following: An issue stays open for a prolonged period of time without any activity on it. After 9 moths the bot comments on: "This issue has been automatically marked as stale because there was no activity on this issue for a prolonged period of time. It will be closed automatically if no further activity occurs in the next 14 days. Thank you for your contributions."
Now there are two things that can happen:
stale
labelWhere in this process are community moderators involved?
I understand your points reg. JIRA. This would probably demand manual interaction.
@Ein-Tim
Where in this process are community moderators involved?
I'm guessing that if somebody comments on an issue, that the comment might need some moderator reply. That is just a gut feel. You will only find out if you implement the bot, so it might be a good idea to start on a simpler repository first to test the reaction.
@MikeMcC399
I see where you're coming from, maybe someone then asks what the status of this ticket is, etc.
You're suggestion to start enrolling the bot on a simpler repository sounds good to me.
@Ein-Tim @MikeMcC399
We already had the internal discussion yesterday also in terms of possible overhead that might happen once we will use the stale bot. However, a final decision on our side was not made yet.
We also need to make sure we are fine from technical/legal standpoints this is why neither I nor my community management team can make any decision right now. We have to wait for final approval from the product owners.
I would expect a decision on this topic in the next few days.
@svengabr
If the product owners decide to go ahead, I would suggest a much shorter number of days to declare an issue stale: something like 4 to 8 weeks, not 9 months. That's based on the current release schedule of once a month. I would factor in what the product release schedule is planned to look like for the future as well. I can only see 2.24 in the pipeline with no date so far visible and no visible version after 2.24.
@MikeMcC399
Yes, I agree that 9 months is too long. I am also not sure at the moment if my cwa-bot
that manages the project board will interfere with the behavior of the stale bot. We will have to figure something out if this gets approved.
@MikeMcC399 @Ein-Tim The usage of the stale bot was rejected by the PO - at least for now.
The reason is that it's not nice to automatically close issues automatically and many people will not be happy if their issues will get closed for no other reason than elapsed time.
In the meantime, our community managers are working through many tickets at the moment that are already obsolete/completed on SAP side. Once we are finished cleaning up, we will address all the "stale" issues in SAP Jira and decide what will happen next.
@svengabr It's good to see that you are updating the externally viewable issues with internal information. I agree that without this manual synchronization it would not make sense to try to add automatic closure to the process. Hopefully in the future of this project Jira and GitHub can be kept in sync in a timely way.
The reason is that it's not nice to automatically close issues automatically and many people will not be happy if their issues will get closed for no other reason than elapsed time.
I see where the PO is coming from, however, but does the PO think people are happier with proposing issues and they just lay around for 2 years? I don't think so. I agree that closing issues only because time elapsed makes no sense, but to come back to my example from the OP (https://github.com/corona-warn-app/cwa-wishlist/issues/165), I would at least expect some action in two years, either:
You & @larswmh are doing great work cleaning up the issue boards, I appreciate that very much!
Hopefully you find some way to automatically mirror JIRA status -> GitHub Issue!
Closing as not planned.
Current Implementation
Currently, especially in the wishlist but also in the documentation repository there are many very old issues which have no activity on them for a prolonged period of time (more than 6 months without any activity).
Suggested Enhancement
Use the GitHub App "Stale Bot" which a) asks if an issue is still relevant after a defined period of time / if this is still a reproducible problem b) closes issues if after the comment to check if the issue is still valid there are no other comments on the issue
Here's link to the bots page: https://github.com/marketplace/stale
Expected Benefits
Realistically nobody, neither from the team nor from the community has the time (or the will) to go through all open issues of the Corona-Warn-App organization (currently around 900 items).
To make the project board cleaner, using the GItHub App "Stale Bot" seems like a good solution for the following reasons:
Suggested configuration
Open questions
Additional information
Should we come to the decision that this should be implemented, I'd like to provide PRs!
Internal Tracking ID: EXPOSUREAPP-13312