Closed c19850727 closed 3 years ago
Hi, does it deserve a lineage? I don't think A684S is concerning, it seems deleterious and would be able to propagate a bit more thanks to P681H/R.
From what I checked the 500 sequences usher subtree you are showing (lineage Delta+A222V+ T11938C,A14475G,G29422T) may represent 1/50th of the Delta+A222V lineage, itself being about 1/12th of Delta.
and all but 3 of the >500 sequences of this Delta+A222V+ T11938C,A14475G,G29422T lineage are from Canada.
To check the already assigned AY.x lineages, I computed a consensus of each lineage from lineages.csv and I obtained an usher tree showing that the T11938C sublineage of Delta+A2222V is not assigned yet.
Michael Edwards brought to my attention this growing Delta sublineage in Sri Lanka carrying two spike mutations: S:A222V, A701S Here the nexstrain build https://nextstrain.org/community/aicbu/ncov/srilanka?c=gt-S_222,701&m=div
I would ask to @babarlelephant if it could have some relevance as we are not technical, before opening a new issue on it.
@FedeGueli According to this tree whose root is at the root of the Delta+A222V lineage, the branch with C331T (say India, April) splits into a USA lineage and your almost purely Sri Lanka lineage (the one with S:A1078S). Some of these Sri Lanka sequences are designated as B.1.617.2 in lineages.csv.
Hi @FedeGueli, we're currently designating AY lineages that are epidemiologically distinct to enable fine-scale virus tracking (outlined at https://www.pango.network/new-ay-lineages/ and https://twitter.com/arambaut/status/1428272566469279749 if you haven't already seen them). So this Sri Lanka lineage looks like an ideal candidate for a new AY. Don't worry about submitting an issue for this one - I'll take a look at it and put the issue in tagging you if it all looks ok. Thanks!
Thank you very much @chrisruis , So i opened a new issue #199 on this sublineage: https://github.com/cov-lineages/pango-designation/issues/199
Thank you @babarlelephant very much for your time.
Thanks @FedeGueli
Hi, does it deserve a lineage? I don't think A684S is concerning, it seems deleterious and would be able to propagate a bit more thanks to P681H/R.
From what I checked the 500 sequences usher subtree you are showing (lineage Delta+A222V+ T11938C,A14475G,G29422T) may represent 1/50th of the Delta+A222V lineage, itself being about 1/12th of Delta.
and all but 3 of the >500 sequences of this Delta+A222V+ T11938C,A14475G,G29422T lineage are from Canada.
To check the already assigned AY.x lineages, I computed a consensus of each lineage from lineages.csv and I obtained an usher tree showing that the T11938C sublineage of Delta+A2222V is not assigned yet.
Hi Babar I think you are right.
I was a bit shocked at the first sight of so many A684S suddenly emerging in August in a few different clusters so I didn't check it before submitting...thanks for the reply and sorry for being dramatic.
Thanks @c19850727. As outlined here, we're designating AY lineages that are epidemiologically distinct. It's not clear that the clade that you proposed is epidemiologically distinct. However, it is part of a larger clade of sequences from Canada that is the result of one or more introductions into Canada with onward transmission. This larger clade does warrant a new AY lineage and we've added this as AY.27 in v1.2.68
We've started AY.27 on a branch with G29422T (synonymous) and it has 1092 sequence designations in v1.2.68: AY.27_sequences.txt
I stumbled across this issue when looking into S:613H homoplasies.
This is what AY.27 looks like in Canada at the moment (blue and green), the top is with S:613H in addition.
Unfortunately, pango-learn doesn't seem to designate any AY.27 at all. So it doesn't show up in outbreak.info or cov-spectrum.
Unfortunately, pango-learn doesn't seem to designate any AY.27 at all. So it doesn't show up in outbreak.info or cov-spectrum.
@corneliusroemer Thanks so much for reporting that! I believe @rmcolq has fixed that in today's pangoLEARN release 2021-09-17. Hopefully that will be reflected in GISAID and outbreak.info soon (few days?).
Hi all of you, following the great work of @corneliusroemer on it i was noticing that the Delta+613H is becoming a thing in Canada ( and not only there)
My main concern came from Alberta where it is increasing in frequency
And in Alberta the epidemiological situation is out of control: https://twitter.com/JenLeeCBC/status/1440382836431679489?s=20
I am not sure that there is any correlation between the two things but i hope professors @AngieHinrichs @chrisruis @rambaut @rmcolq @aineniamh could take a second look at this situation.
link of the screenshots Covid Spectrum https://cov-spectrum.ethz.ch/explore/Canada/AllSamples/AllTimes/variants/json=%7B%22variant%22%3A%7B%22name%22%3A%22B.1.617.2%22%2C%22mutations%22%3A[%22S%3AQ613H%22]%7D%2C%22matchPercentage%22%3A1%7D
If anything S:Q613H has been stable at around 40% prevalence in Alberta since late July, which I would not call "increasing in frequency". CovSPECTRUM can produce unreliable estimates of transmissibility advantage when the increase in prevalence is due to a founder effect rather than a difference in fitness.
If anything S:Q613H has been stable at around 40% prevalence in Alberta since late July, which I would not call "increasing in frequency". CovSPECTRUM can produce unreliable estimates of transmissibility advantage when the increase in prevalence is due to a founder effect rather than a difference in fitness.
i know well i didnt look at growth advantage, but at the epidemiological situation. there is not just trasmission advantage as possible issue.
At the moment Alberta is experiencing the highest ratio icu per million pop, (between the countries on ourworldindata) despite 74% of fully vaxxed, and no age of vaccinated abnormality as we have seen in FLA or elsewhere.
Potential sublineage of B.1.617.2 (25 sequences in Alberta, Canada) Earliest sequence: 2020/8/4 Most recent sequence: 2021/8/10 Mutations in addition to B.1.617.2: M: A81S N: S412R ORF1a: A687V, H712Q, V1550F, P1640L, A3209V, V3718A, T3750I ORF1b: M1499I ORF8: 119/120del ORF9b: M8T S: A222V, Q613H, A684S Genomes: EPI_ISL_3524943, EPI_ISL_3524970-3524971, EPI_ISL_3524986, EPI_ISL_3525009, EPI_ISL_3525019, EPI_ISL_3525156, EPI_ISL_3525186, EPI_ISL_3525193, EPI_ISL_3525204, EPI_ISL_3525211, EPI_ISL_3525219, EPI_ISL_3525230-3525231, EPI_ISL_3525239, EPI_ISL_3525304, EPI_ISL_3525399, EPI_ISL_3525406, EPI_ISL_3525412, EPI_ISL_3525414, EPI_ISL_3525418-3525419, EPI_ISL_3525435, EPI_ISL_3525440, EPI_ISL_3525453
https://nextstrain.org/fetch/genome.ucsc.edu/trash/ct/subtreeAuspice1_genome_4c5ca_1edef0.json